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11-01-2009, 05:15 PM
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IPOD LOD Cables review: APureSound, Qables Silvercab pro, Whiplash Audio Elite SCSCag
Testing equipment: IPod Classic 120G, RSA Predator, Westone ES3, Klipsch Image X10
Cables: APureSound LOD (Switchcraft connector with Cotton/carbon insulation), Qables Silvercab Pro LOD, Whiplash Audio Elite SCSCag LOD (ViaBlue connector)
Music Format: Apple Lossless (CD->EAC->WAV->M4A)
ES3, my favourite IEM, which is mostly used in the listening
OK. Let’s get started~
APuresound LOD:
APureSound - Where The Music Is Always Pure - APS Audio LLC.
Bass is strong, deep, with good extension, but not too much and muddy at all; Midrange is quite forward, but smooth. Treble is clean and grain-free. Sounds energetic and exciting. Emphasis on mid and bass. However, Sounds a bit dark which compared with the other two. Especially suitable for pop and rock music.
Treble: 8
Mid: 8.5
Bass: 8.5
Soundstage: 8
Transparency: 8
Neutrality: 8.3
Value: 8.2
Overall: 8.2
Qables Silvercab Pro LOD:
Qables | High Quality Custom Made Qables
Bass is surprisingly deep and well defined. Detailed midrange, pleasant and elegant sounding. Treble has good extension, smooth and clean. Very neutral sounding. High coherence of treble, mid and bass. Balanced sound, wide soundstage, superb neutrality. Musicality is a bit less which compared with the other two. Suitable for every kinds of music.
Treble: 8.5
Mid: 8.3
Bass: 8.2
Soundstage: 8.5
Transparency: 8.5
Neutrality: 9
Value: 8.5
Overall: 8.5
Whiplash Audio Elite SCSCag LOD:
Elite SCSCag Viablue LOD - Whiplash Audio - iPod and iPhone Cables - Cables
Awesome! Silky and clear treble with great extension, good Instrumental positioning. Emotional, detailed and airy vocal. Wide open soundstage, especially the width. Very comfortable sounding. However, bass is not deep and strong enough which compared with the other two. Transparency is wonderful, very impressive. Especially suitable for jazz, vocal, piano and string instrument.
Treble: 9
Mid: 9
Bass: 7.5
Soundstage: 9
Transparency: 9
Neutrality: 8.5
Value: 9.5
Overall: 8.8
To sum up, if you want better bass on your IPod, APuresound LOD is a good choice. If you want a neutral sounding LOD and listen to many kinds of music, Qables Silvercab Pro LOD is your cub of tea. If you are a treble lover and want to open up the soundstage more, Whiplash Audio Elite SCSCag LOD is no doubt the way to go. In addition, it is now having promotion with the special price, which is an incredible bargain. Finally, I hope my review is useful for you who want to find a fine LOD.
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IEM: Westone ES3, Klipsch Image X10, UE Super Fi 5 PRO
DAP: IPod Classic 120G, IRiver H360 BGx4 MOD
Discman: Sony NE20LS
CDPlayer: Cambridge Audio Azur 840C
Soundcard: Creative E-MU 1212M PCI, X-FI Platinum
Headphone: Sennheiser HD 800 (Original & APureSound V3 recabled), Sennheiser HD 650 (Revelation Audio Labs Paradise Cryo-Silver™ Reference)
Amplifier: Phil Audio PA-HA-6000MK3SE, RSA the Predator
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Waiting: Xin Reference (Oct 8, 2007 Ordered)
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11-01-2009, 05:22 PM
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thanks mate! it's what I've been looking for!
Would anyone be able to chime in with performance based on the cheaper cables and if that had a drastic impression on performance? I quite like the output of my IE8s at the moment. I do hope the Whiplash ones won't kill the bass too much. But from that review, the toss up for me would be between the Qables and Whiplash. Again, thanks ever so much for that!
ooh. forgot to ask, this may not be relevant, but how would you rate the build qualities of them?
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11-01-2009, 05:32 PM
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You're welcome~
Long time before, I've been using some cheaper cables from China, they are quite good in value, but most of them lacks neutrality. For me, the performance is quite distinct.
Whiplash ones won't kill the bass too much unless you are one of the bass head~
Maybe the APuresound and Whipash one needs more time to burn-in, I just burn-in the APuresound one for ~30 hrs and the Whiplash one for ~80-100 hrs
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IEM: Westone ES3, Klipsch Image X10, UE Super Fi 5 PRO
DAP: IPod Classic 120G, IRiver H360 BGx4 MOD
Discman: Sony NE20LS
CDPlayer: Cambridge Audio Azur 840C
Soundcard: Creative E-MU 1212M PCI, X-FI Platinum
Headphone: Sennheiser HD 800 (Original & APureSound V3 recabled), Sennheiser HD 650 (Revelation Audio Labs Paradise Cryo-Silver™ Reference)
Amplifier: Phil Audio PA-HA-6000MK3SE, RSA the Predator
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Waiting: Xin Reference (Oct 8, 2007 Ordered)
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11-01-2009, 05:54 PM
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I'm definitely not a bass head, but I do like my beats =)
I love the IE8s dialed down to the lowest setting though. But at the moment, I might plunge for the Whiplash. I'll see how the iBasso CB03 cable goes and then I'll have to make a decision.
iBasso
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11-01-2009, 06:24 PM
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Nice review and pics. Had been waiting for a comparison between the silvercab pro and scscag. The Viablue plug is so sexy~
Enjoy your new toy.
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11-02-2009, 04:57 AM
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oh nice!!
A review in need!!
VERY tempted by the scscAG one =)
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11-02-2009, 03:36 PM
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Nice write up. It appears that Craig used my SCSCag for the above cable, let it "run in" for a 150 hours, or so, I think you'll be surprised how the bass comes around.
Peace,
Lee
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11-04-2009, 12:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarplayer
Nice write up. It appears that Craig used my SCSCag for the above cable, let it "run in" for a 150 hours, or so, I think you'll be surprised how the bass comes around.
Peace,
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Thanks. I'll let it burn in for a longer time.
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IEM: Westone ES3, Klipsch Image X10, UE Super Fi 5 PRO
DAP: IPod Classic 120G, IRiver H360 BGx4 MOD
Discman: Sony NE20LS
CDPlayer: Cambridge Audio Azur 840C
Soundcard: Creative E-MU 1212M PCI, X-FI Platinum
Headphone: Sennheiser HD 800 (Original & APureSound V3 recabled), Sennheiser HD 650 (Revelation Audio Labs Paradise Cryo-Silver™ Reference)
Amplifier: Phil Audio PA-HA-6000MK3SE, RSA the Predator
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11-04-2009, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cravenz
ooh. forgot to ask, this may not be relevant, but how would you rate the build qualities of them?
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All of them have top notch quality, seems that they all have great durability too.
But if I rate, Qables silvercab pro LOD worth 9 in build qualities, APS LOD worth 8.5 since the cable is a bit crooked right near the Ipod adaptor, SCSCag LOD worth 8.7 since there is a tiny glue trace near the Ipod adaptor
P.S. Since I've been told that the APS and SCSCag both needs ~150 hours to reach its full potential, I'll compare them again afterwards if they showed significant improvements.
P.P.S. The Silvercab Pro LOD already reached 800 hours.
P.P.P.S. Unlike RCA, XLR, mini cables, burn in the LOD cables are very troublesome, I need to recharge the battery of my IPC again and again...
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IEM: Westone ES3, Klipsch Image X10, UE Super Fi 5 PRO
DAP: IPod Classic 120G, IRiver H360 BGx4 MOD
Discman: Sony NE20LS
CDPlayer: Cambridge Audio Azur 840C
Soundcard: Creative E-MU 1212M PCI, X-FI Platinum
Headphone: Sennheiser HD 800 (Original & APureSound V3 recabled), Sennheiser HD 650 (Revelation Audio Labs Paradise Cryo-Silver™ Reference)
Amplifier: Phil Audio PA-HA-6000MK3SE, RSA the Predator
etc
Waiting: Xin Reference (Oct 8, 2007 Ordered)
Last edited by williamchc; 11-04-2009 at 06:41 AM.
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11-04-2009, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by williamchc
All of them have top notch quality, seems that they all have great durability too.
But if I rate, Qables silvercab pro LOD worth 9 in build qualities, APS LOD worth 8.5 since the cable is a bit crooked right near the Ipod adaptor, SCSCag LOD worth 8.7 since there is a tiny glue trace near the Ipod adaptor
P.S. Since I've been told that the APS and SCSCag both needs ~150 hours to reach its full potential, I'll compare them again afterwards if they showed significant improvements.
P.P.S. The Silvercab Pro LOD already reached 800 hours.
P.P.P.S. Unlike RCA, XLR, mini cables, burn in the LOD cables are very troublesome, I need to recharge the battery of my IPC again and again...
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Yeah I think the thing I worry about is the cable quality and the chances are cos' it's portable, it'll get pushed around a fair bit especially since the cable sticks out like a sore thumb. And I kinda feel safer if all the plugs I see didn't look half done, e.g. glue sticking out etc, though it's not a big issue and I'll probably try the whiplash cable though I will wait till I fly back till I get it. It's just nicer to have peace of mind sometimes. lol.
thanks though and yeah. I'm still thinking whether I should upgrade from the iBasso cable and it's a bit annoying that I have to turn my phone to aeroplane mode. lol.
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11-04-2009, 03:44 PM
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I've just ordered a Whiplash Audio Elite SCSCag LOD.
I'll post some impressions when it arrives. I'm currently using a £10 Canare cable LOD I bought from E-Bay. Hopefully it was money well spent?
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Amps: RSA Shadow, PiiO E5, Karan Acoustics KA I 180, Puresound P10 and Tribute MC SUT
Sources: iPhone 3G 16gb, iPod Classic 160gb 7th Gen, Esoteric X-03se, MHDT Havana (Wychwood modified), Voyd Valdi/Helius Aereus II/Shelter 901
Loudspeakers: Living Voice OBX-R2
Cables: Kondo KSL-Vz & KSL-SPc, Audio Note AN-V, Whiplash Audio Elite Viablue SCSCag LOD
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11-05-2009, 06:44 PM
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i may also try the whiplash audio elite scscag lod, hope to see further review from you, williamchc~
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11-05-2009, 06:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi-fi Wigwammer
I've just ordered a Whiplash Audio Elite SCSCag LOD.
I'll post some impressions when it arrives. I'm currently using a £10 Canare cable LOD I bought from E-Bay. Hopefully it was money well spent?
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Cool give us a heads up on how it goes. I'd really like to know the difference between both =P
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I have the whiplash audio product. I enjoy it.
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11-05-2009, 08:17 PM
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Quote:
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I have the whiplash audio product. I enjoy it. 
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Lots of people do. The issue really is, what difference does it make as compared to a cheaper cable that costs less than 50 USD. Would the difference be that much more noticeable if there is one..
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