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Cables, Power, Tweaks, Speakers, Accessories (DBT-Free Forum) Discussion of cables, power (the electric kind), tweaks, & accessories.

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Old 02-19-2002, 06:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/tweaks/index.html

OK. Check out, well, pretty much all the products on this page. Could anyone tell me how the hell this stuff is supposed to actually work as they claim?

'You don't have to be a technofreak to use these upgrades. And you don't have to own a $50,000 hi fi system to hear the difference. Each one has been tested on our $108 Sony boombox—and each one made an easily heard, delightful improvement in the sound."

For christ's sake, people. That is so ****ing ********.

I can see how some of these tweaks may work, like polishing CD's and the like, but as they state, ALL these tweaks were tested on a cheap-ass boombox, eveh this one:

http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/tweaks/platforms.html

...now, how the HELL is setting up a radio like this going to make an audible difference when the radio has far more problems than simply vibration.

Can someone can please tell me how these tweaks have a possible rationale so I might put my mind at ease? I guess it just comes down to "ignorance is bliss," I guess...that pretty much sums it up...
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Old 02-19-2002, 08:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I wonder if those sprays will make my DVD movies crisper and clearer too? Hey! Maybey they'll also improve the graphics quality of my video games as well! :P

Seriously, I don't think coating good condition CDs will get you the "2-3 handkerchiefs" difference they advertise. Might help with badly damaged CDs, but there are plenty of other CD resurfacing techniques out there that I'd try first. If CD data was that unreliable, nobody would have CD-ROM drives in their computers, let alone DVD-ROMs.

The only reasonable explanation for their observed improvements would be that they were using scratched-up CDs and their boom box ignores the CD's error correcting codes.
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don't ever believe that treating a CD will result in improved performance. we're talking about DIGITAL information here, there's no way that a spray or any other treatment will change the digital information in any way. it's absolute, utter, total, complete bull!

oh, and everything else on that page is BS too.
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I wouldn't go that far, Neruda. I suppose the argument for user-applied CD coatings is more a question of ensuring the accuracy of digital data read off a CD and its timeliness (i.e. jitter reduction); that said, I've never read a positive review (from a legit source, at least) of any of these sprays except for the Auric CD Illuminator.

Most of the other stuff seems fine: aftermarket power cords, interconnects, speaker cables etc. etc.; and vibration/resonance control devices DO make a difference (the magnitude of the difference varies considerably of course).
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don't ever believe that treating a CD will result in improved performance. we're talking about DIGITAL information here, there's no way that a spray or any other treatment will change the digital information in any way. it's absolute, utter, total, complete bull!

oh, and everything else on that page is BS too.
Exactly how is the reading of the pits on a CD a digital process?
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Some of that stuff may be placebo, but I'd still respect Mapleshade as an audiophile recording company. They also have some very intriguing interconnects, along with the $1000+ Omega Mikros interconnects which aren't mentioned on their website.
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I used to apply a liquid called lazer guide made by Audio quest
to my CDs.
It was advertised that the fluid[like silicon oil] helped prevent/improve surface diffusion of the lazer beam by filling the
micro texture on the disc, reducing the work the error correction
functions had to appply.

It DID change the sound[I thought for the better].
An application of olive oil produced a similar change but the residue remained and was undesirable.

This was sometime ago and no doubt transports are better now
and such treatments may indeed be of little or no benifit.

The audio[phile] industry does seem to attract eccentric products
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To tweak or not to tweak...that is the question.

To tweak, perchance to clean! Ay, there's the rub!
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Originally posted by Vertigo-1
Some of that stuff may be placebo, but I'd still respect Mapleshade as an audiophile recording company. They also have some very intriguing interconnects, along with the $1000+ Omega Mikros interconnects which aren't mentioned on their website.
I agree with Vert. Mapleshade makes some of the best sounding recordings in the world. And guess what? They use this stuff. I own their conepoints for my cd player and speakers. Their cables are well respected.

Yeah, the ads are overzealous and claim them to do amazing things for your system. What audiophile company doesn't? It's advertising. At least they back up their products with a money-back guarantee.

Be sure to check out their recordings! Wonderful stuff! These will sound good on almost anything.
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