Help me pick a cheap Ipod LOD to 3.5mm

[nismohks]

wow that looks really sweet!

now im just waiting for steve to get back to me

[Masticore]

Is the usb connector just for charging or can you also use it for transfering song?

[Lil' Knight]

Originally Posted by Masticore

Is the usb connector just for charging or can you also use it for transfering song?

They can both charge and sync, but it'll be damn difficult to solder all the four pins to the usb connector.

[Masticore]

So that lod that stevens sells, does it both charge or sync or just charge as standard?

[nismohks]

i think what he means is that although technically it could be used for syncing as well, it is mainly used for charging only.

this may be because it would take up even more room to wire up the extra usb connections and make things even more complicated.

it is entirely possible that you can get a custom one made up with that function as well i think. just that most people are fine without it and therefore will save from the extra complications.

maybe it could be because of the extra quality wiring that takes up most of the space.

[Lil' Knight]

Originally Posted by Masticore

So that lod that stevens sells, does it both charge or sync or just charge as standard?

It can be charged by the Moto Razer charger, and by synced by the mini-usb cable. It took me hours to solder all the pins Damn difficult because the pins are always in the ready-to-break state.

[nismohks]

can anyone explain a few key terms for me?

i keep hearing the same things over and over again, ie:

1) cryo dock
2) jena 22g 18g
3) cry silver
4) Neutrik Nickel
5) IMOD enabled LOD
6) # of strands on a dock. some have 3, some 4 and some with mixed wires. If for example a LOD had 2 jena and 2 cryo silver, what does that mean? why are some copper and some silver and what are they connected to?

THanks

[monolith]

Originally Posted by nismohks

can anyone explain a few key terms for me?

i keep hearing the same things over and over again, ie:

1) cryo dock
2) jena 22g 18g
3) cry silver
4) Neutrik Nickel
5) IMOD enabled LOD
6) # of strands on a dock. some have 3, some 4 and some with mixed wires. If for example a LOD had 2 jena and 2 cryo silver, what does that mean? why are some copper and some silver and what are they connected to?

THanks

1. The "cryo dock" is an LOD sold by ALO Audio, made from cryo treated copper wire. The cryo treatment process is alleged to offer sonic benefits. Alleged.

2. Jena (Jena Labs, specifically) is a company that sells cryo treated copper wires. ALO cryo docks use their copper wire. 22g and 18g refer to guage sizes (thicknesses) of the wire. The smaller the number, the thicker the wire.

3. *cryo silver. Same deal as cryo copper.

4. Neutrik makes connectors and jacks that get used in cables frequently, and some of them are nickel plated.

5. The iMod is a modified iPod from Red Wine Audio. When a 5/5.5G iPod is "iModded", capacitors are required in the signal path that don't fit inside the iPod's slim case. Accordingly, ALO provides LODs that have these capacitors built into the signal path (inside the dock connector part of the LOD). Those are the so called iMod enabled LODs. Don't get one if you're not using an iMod.

6. Some people claim that different kinds of wire sound different, and as such cables are made with these tastes in mind. For example, I believe ALO audio has a line of cables called Cryo X Silver that uses cryo copper wires in conjunction with pure silver wires. My personal opinion is that this is all nonsense, but nevertheless many claim sonic differences between the materials. As for what it means technically, the dock needs at least three wires: right, left and ground. The four wire docks generally double up on ground (though I don't know what if any effect this has). Again, using different materials for the channels versus the ground implies the expectation of a sonic effect, but I very much doubt there is one.


I have two LODs. One made with Canare Starquad cable (pretty standard stuff, regular copper I believe, nothing fancy) and one with Jena cryo copper cable. I can attest to there being no audible difference between them.

[nismohks]

Originally Posted by monolith

1. The "cryo dock" is an LOD sold by ALO Audio, made from cryo treated copper wire. The cryo treatment process is alleged to offer sonic benefits. Alleged.

2. Jena (Jena Labs, specifically) is a company that sells cryo treated copper wires. ALO cryo docks use their copper wire. 22g and 18g refer to guage sizes (thicknesses) of the wire. The smaller the number, the thicker the wire.

3. *cryo silver. Same deal as cryo copper.

4. Neutrik makes connectors and jacks that get used in cables frequently, and some of them are nickel plated.

5. The iMod is a modified iPod from Red Wine Audio. When a 5/5.5G iPod is "iModded", capacitors are required in the signal path that don't fit inside the iPod's slim case. Accordingly, ALO provides LODs that have these capacitors built into the signal path (inside the dock connector part of the LOD). Those are the so called iMod enabled LODs. Don't get one if you're not using an iMod.

6. Some people claim that different kinds of wire sound different, and as such cables are made with these tastes in mind. For example, I believe ALO audio has a line of cables called Cryo X Silver that uses cryo copper wires in conjunction with pure silver wires. My personal opinion is that this is all nonsense, but nevertheless many claim sonic differences between the materials.


I have two LODs. One made with Canare Starquad cable (pretty standard stuff, regular copper I believe, nothing fancy) and one with Jena cryo copper cable. I can attest to there being no audible difference between them.

BRAVO.

mate that is a perfect post and i could NOT HAVE asked for anything better !

perfect, much appreciated!

[monolith]

Originally Posted by nismohks

BRAVO.

mate that is a perfect post and i could NOT HAVE asked for anything better !

perfect, much appreciated!

My pleasure. See this post for pictures of my rig that used one of stevenkelby's LODs.