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07-15-2005, 11:05 PM
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Help! HD580 Recable?!
Wow, so I got my HD580s today...great soundstage! I can finally listen to opera without feeling like I am being shouted at!
BUT......I also finally discovered the famous Sennheiser veil...instruments are clear, everything is clear, but somehow a bit dulled at the same time. It's like I am sitting behind a stage curtain or something.
My Pimeta cleaned up a bit, but still lacks a certain lustre....
I understand that recabling is supposed to help.... does it? Is it worth it for HD580s (I am not planning to upgrade these. I can't find a compelling argument, unless it's for the HD650s, which I am not really interested in right now...)? And if so, what should I do?
I've PM'ed RnB180 about his senn mod cable, but what else can I look at?
Help!!!
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07-16-2005, 03:15 AM
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I am very much in the same situation. I'm running 580s out of an AV-710 and a Pimeta. I wonder if it is worth the money, buying an upgraded cable.
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07-16-2005, 03:40 AM
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I think you should upgrade source first. Headphones, source, and amplifier are first priority 
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07-16-2005, 09:04 AM
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I think you should upgrade source first. Headphones, source, and amplifier are first priority |
What he said. Cables SHOULD be the last thing you do. That's not alway's the case but in an ideal world you should: (IMO)
1. Find the headphones that you like
2. Find a source that is in the same league as your phones (if ya know what I mean)
3. Get an amp that tweaks the sound signiture which ever way you want.
4. Now you can start looking at cables to tweak it that tiny last bit.
If I got to start over, that's how I'd do it.
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07-16-2005, 09:13 AM
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have you tried replacing thing foam insert with nylon?
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07-16-2005, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gordolindsay
What he said. Cables SHOULD be the last thing you do. That's not alway's the case but in an ideal world you should: (IMO)
1. Find the headphones that you like
2. Find a source that is in the same league as your phones (if ya know what I mean)
3. Get an amp that tweaks the sound signiture which ever way you want.
4. Now you can start looking at cables to tweak it that tiny last bit.
If I got to start over, that's how I'd do it.
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I 100% agree with that.
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07-16-2005, 08:16 PM
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Source: I currently use my ipod, which I know is not the greatest, even with 320kbps rips, but as I have a habit of wondering and travelling for work, I can't really enjoy a home set up...(although I have seen a nice demo'ed Nakamichi mini system that I would like to get) So how do I improve my source quality without sacrificing portability?
Amp: My PIMETA is great for portability, and I am looking at upgrading to a Portaphile or Zemo Lambda for that, and probably a M^3 or the Gilmore lite for home... Am I looking at the right amps?
Headphones: HD280, ER6i, HD580, K501, MS1, soon a DT880...because I like a huge variety of music....and details....
The reason that I was looking at cables was that I noticed that they made a difference when I wired up my home theater and though using the Canare Starquad IC sounds a lot better then using my iriver stock line out... and...well, the HD580 cables looks...so...um, wimpy?!
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I 100% agree with that.
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07-16-2005, 09:05 PM
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iPod isn't so bad, especially if you are using its line-out.
As for amp recommendation, I think its a better deal for you to just buy a single amp for portable and home use, instead of dividing the funds between a home amp and a portable one.
Along those lines, why not sell some phones and go higher up on the modes that you really like  For example, HD580->HD650 or MS1->RS1 or ER6i->ER4/E4C
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07-16-2005, 11:14 PM
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Some say the stock HD650 cable is a pretty good step up from the stock HD580 cable. I haven't compared them but for $15 it might be worth it.
I also agree with the way to set up a system. Source is a huge part of it, often overlooked.
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07-16-2005, 11:56 PM
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What difference is there between HD600 stock cable and HD650's? I checked the australian price of these two and the former costs much more.
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07-17-2005, 06:26 AM
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the hd650 cable has thicker awg conductors and larger connectors.
the hd580 has TINY conductors and wimpy connectors.
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07-17-2005, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RnB180
the hd650 cable has thicker awg conductors and larger connectors.
the hd580 has TINY conductors and wimpy connectors.
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Thanks! I assume the HD650 cable will fit the HD580 just fine? Also, any guess as to why the HD600 should cost much more?
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