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Old 05-18-2008, 02:49 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Never heard of such no such thing; Of course, I don't believe in giving my I/Cs a break, period

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Old 05-18-2008, 02:54 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RedLeader View Post
Stop making fun of the OP, if you don't use the electrons for long enough they get tired and don't feel like passing charges. Realistically your electrons need at LEAST 8 hours of sleep a night though, but no more or they'll get overtired. Don't let your cables be unused for more than 8 hours, otherwise your music will slow down.
Sounds like a thread I made way back in '04.

Directionality, Gravity, And the Firepole theory

Ok so I was playing around with some directional cables (actually A/Bing them IN REVERSE if you must know). Suddenly I had an epiphany.

"WHAT ABOUT GRAVITY?" said I. You see my amp is above my source currently. So I tried it. I switched their positions. And guess what? It's AMAZING. Suddenly the highs have opened up. They no longer sound "fatuiged" like before. So here's my theory:

Firepole. Yeah that's right you heard me. A cable is like a firepole. Only... when you put your source below your amp, you're forcing the electrons upward. Now picture the bass electrons. Big meaty strong electrons right? They have NO problem going upwards. But now imagine the little delicate treble electrons. They struggle upward, sounding ragged and washed out when they finally drag their little wispy tails to the top. I'd say at least half of them must fall off the firepole and die a blissfull death at the bottom of my source. So try it, reverse those components. You know you want to
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Old 05-18-2008, 03:30 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by NightWoundsTime View Post
Sounds like a thread I made way back in '04.

Directionality, Gravity, And the Firepole theory

Ok so I was playing around with some directional cables (actually A/Bing them IN REVERSE if you must know). Suddenly I had an epiphany.

"WHAT ABOUT GRAVITY?" said I. You see my amp is above my source currently. So I tried it. I switched their positions. And guess what? It's AMAZING. Suddenly the highs have opened up. They no longer sound "fatuiged" like before. So here's my theory:

Firepole. Yeah that's right you heard me. A cable is like a firepole. Only... when you put your source below your amp, you're forcing the electrons upward. Now picture the bass electrons. Big meaty strong electrons right? They have NO problem going upwards. But now imagine the little delicate treble electrons. They struggle upward, sounding ragged and washed out when they finally drag their little wispy tails to the top. I'd say at least half of them must fall off the firepole and die a blissfull death at the bottom of my source. So try it, reverse those components. You know you want to
This thread and your's are both great. Right up there with Patrick82's threads for entertainment. Actually your thread ended up with some interesting information as well.
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Old 05-18-2008, 04:01 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Dammit Night, THATS why my rig has been sounding so crappy. Though I'm also now worried about interference from my cell phone, and street lights outside. I've decided to move to the middle of the australian outback. Does anyone see a flaw in my plan?
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Dammit Night, THATS why my rig has been sounding so crappy. Though I'm also now worried about interference from my cell phone, and street lights outside. I've decided to move to the middle of the australian outback. Does anyone see a flaw in my plan?
I want to move to Australia and have a solar powered trailer for my audio system. But I'm worried of the kangaroos stealing my solar panels.
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Old 05-18-2008, 05:17 AM   #36 (permalink)
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While a valid concern, what about the clouds screwing up the bass? You need full sun out-put for the slamming bass you desire
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I want to move to Australia and have a solar powered trailer for my audio system. But I'm worried of the kangaroos stealing my solar panels.
Valid concerns - kangaroos are a real problem. They do have quite a collection of solar cells by now. I expect that they're setting up their own solar power-station, and will charge us exorbitant prices for their 'green' power. Damn marsupial science geniuses with their tempting renewable energy monopoly.

But seriously, living in Australia is great for audio. The electrons have already been carried down under.

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While a valid concern, what about the clouds screwing up the bass? You need full sun out-put for the slamming bass you desire
It's not cloudy very often in the outback; bass should be mostly screw free.

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Copper, if not exposed to running electrical current, will revert to its original, base quantum state after a while. That is, its electrons will revert to their lowest energy states, where the electrons are closest to the nucleus. This means that when fresh current is applied, the running electrons will pass closer to the copper nuclei than in a burnt-in cable, inducing what is known as nuclear disharmonics between the copper nuclei and free electrons, leading to selective dampening of certain ("disharmonic") frequencies in the audio signal. Only problem is that what from a technical, quantum nuclear point of view is "disharmonic" is in no way what we in the macro, audio world call disharmonic. The observed effect is one of selective cancelling out of frequencies, especially in the high ranges since atomic nuclei are very high frequency, leading to the observed effects. The nuclear disharmonics are at their minimum after 50 ampère-hours per square millimeter of cross section, so depending on the strength of your audio signal, there is a "sweet spot" for audio after 50 ampère-hours of burn-in. (Example: If your average ampères during burn-in is 0.5, and your cable is one square mm across, you will require 100 hours of burn-in, since 100x0.5/1=50) After 50 ampère-hours/mm^2, you will actually have increased nuclear disharmonics, but the increase as you go to infinite ampère-hours is so small that it is negligible by the human ear. Thus 50 ampère-hours/mm^2 of burn-in can be considered a complete and final burn-in, as long as you do not leave your copper without current for too long.
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Just read that...
it is possible although the effect is probably not that great and probably only applicable to coaxial cables.
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Copper, if not exposed to running electrical current, will revert to its original, base quantum state after a while. That is, its electrons will revert to their lowest energy states, where the electrons are closest to the nucleus. This means that when fresh current is applied, the running electrons will pass closer to the copper nuclei than in a burnt-in cable, inducing what is known as nuclear disharmonics between the copper nuclei and free electrons, leading to selective dampening of certain ("disharmonic") frequencies in the audio signal. Only problem is that what from a technical, quantum nuclear point of view is "disharmonic" is in no way what we in the macro, audio world call disharmonic. The observed effect is one of selective cancelling out of frequencies, especially in the high ranges since atomic nuclei are very high frequency, leading to the observed effects. The nuclear disharmonics are at their minimum after 50 ampère-hours per square millimeter of cross section, so depending on the strength of your audio signal, there is a "sweet spot" for audio after 50 ampère-hours of burn-in. (Example: If your average ampères during burn-in is 0.5, and your cable is one square mm across, you will require 100 hours of burn-in, since 100x0.5/1=50) After 50 ampère-hours/mm^2, you will actually have increased nuclear disharmonics, but the increase as you go to infinite ampère-hours is so small that it is negligible by the human ear. Thus 50 ampère-hours/mm^2 of burn-in can be considered a complete and final burn-in, as long as you do not leave your copper without current for too long.
Does running enough ampere-hour effect the fermi level of the metal such that the work function of the metal is decreased as a result?
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