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Old 07-12-2008, 09:43 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Kevin, your going to end up with 10 sets of IC's half cryo'd, half not just to change the sound of your rig. Can't wait to hear it at the next meet.
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I am going to Cryo myself to see if I can sing better. I will tell later how it goes.
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Here is something that may relate to cryo changes in components/interconnects.

When metals are supercooled they go into the 5 state of matter - Bose Einstien condensate where the electrons are in lockstep and the material will superconduct.

So if a conductor is supercooled (cryo) and then slowly brought to room temperature is the new more relaxed state a degree closer to the superconducting state?
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When metals are supercooled they go into the 5 state of matter - Bose Einstien condensate where the electrons are in lockstep and the material will superconduct.
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Yes... Bose!! 5th state of matter!
The problem is that not all metals become superconductors with cooling.
Superconductors become superconductors with cooling.
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Cryo stuff that gets abused.

Ortherwise, I am also in the camp of it does very little or nothing to the sound.
It DOES increase the durability/flexibility of the cable. I would use Cryo treatment on headphone cable and cables for portable rigs. I wouldn't do it to anything else because it does nothing to benefit that end.

It DOES for a fact result in more times that you can bend the wire without breaking - tried it!
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Someone is sending me some stuff to cryo.

Germania or anyone else from nwu can come and watch
to confirm i did in fact do it. KG80 in the tech building.
Date and time when i know when the stuff will be here.
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Originally Posted by jma790 View Post
Yes... Bose!! 5th state of matter!
The problem is that not all metals become superconductors with cooling.
Superconductors become superconductors with cooling.
And they superconduct only when at or VERY near absolute 0.

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Cryo stuff that gets abused.

Ortherwise, I am also in the camp of it does very little or nothing to the sound.
It DOES increase the durability/flexibility of the cable. I would use Cryo treatment on headphone cable and cables for portable rigs. I wouldn't do it to anything else because it does nothing to benefit that end.

It DOES for a fact result in more times that you can bend the wire without breaking - tried it!
As a mech. engineer, i"ll back this engineer's statement - cryo will definitely make the metal more ductile. What other benefit is has, I don't know. However, just keep in mind the bottlenecks - connectors, jacks, PCB traces, leads on resistors, capacitors, etc. 'nuff said.
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Cryogenic Treatment has been used on guitar strings and many different kinds of electrical wires. Quite a few people these days get their tubes treated cheaply and sell them on ebay.

I think this site may be able to help you with more info about cryo treatment.

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I've had an ALO silver cable and a Jumbo Cryo a the same time before; no difference whatsoever. I concentrated and focused on the same song over and over until I looked constipated, but alas.

So IMHO only cryo cables if they're going to go out in public, where they'll be tougher and look cooler.
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