200g Japanese Presses

[Nick 214]

So I own a ton of 180g pressings and a few Classic Records 200gs...

I got the new MD email flier today (like all good MD customers did), and I noticed the 200g CSN&Y 200s..

MUSICDIRECT - CROSBY, STILLS, NASH AND YOUNG - DEJA VU LIVE (200g JAPANESE HQ VINLY 2LP)

And a good looking Neil Young:

MUSICDIRECT - NEIL YOUNG - SUGAR MOUNTAIN: LIVE AT CANTERBURY HOUSE 1968 (2LP 200g JAPANESE HQ VINYL)

Yes I know they're doubles, but do they warrant the price? (In terms of SQ)

Nick

[paara]

HI there, sorry if this qestion is dumb:

What is the difference between 200g and 180g vinyls? (except the weight of course)

[Nick 214]

Originally Posted by paara

HI there, sorry if this qestion is dumb:

What is the difference between 200g and 180g vinyls? (except the weight of course)

That's what I'm hoping to find out...

NK

[Nick 214]

Come on Fzman..

[fzman]

Nick214,

Sorry for taking too much time to get back to you. The two lps, referenced here, are not yet available, so I can't speak specifically about how THEY sound. What I can say, is that heavier vinyl-- I.e., above 160 grams or so-- sounds better for two reasons. First, it is less resonant and doesn't sing along as much to any vibration induced by the stylus playing the record, or bearing noise transmitted through the spindle and platter. Nor does it pick up as much airborne vibration-translation-better sound. Second, the grooves can be cut deeper in thicker vinyl, with less risk of cutting through the other side-- think about thicker paper being better since it is harder to see the print on the other side "bleeding" through.
There is some debate as to whether 200 gram sound any better than 180s. But some of the best sounding audiophile LPs are 180 gram pressings, e.g., the Music Matters Blue Note reissues, and they are phenomenal.

As to the pricing of these LPs, the pricing is based on what it costs to purchase them and have them shipped from overseas-- it is not based on their sound, per se.

Once they come in and I have a chance to listen to them, I can comment further on their sonics.

Mark Schneider
Senior Audio Consultant
Music Direct
Direct Line: 312-738-5018

General Line: 800-449-8333

[Nick 214]

Thanks, Mark!

I'm sure they're good, but the price is steep (and justifiably so) for a student with little income. I'll await your impressions.

For a short time I worked for Mosaic Records, whom produces some expensive LPs as well, so I understand what goes into them.

NK

[fzman]

Nick,



I did some more checking and found out that these are being pressed for Warner Brothers by the best pressing plant in Japan. They are the first WB Records titles to use this Japanese plant!



Both will be extremely limited-production-- one press run only, and will sell out fast. Inside info is that the Neil Young LP will sound phenomenal, and is an amazing performance.

[Nick 214]

Originally Posted by fzman

Nick,



I did some more checking and found out that these are being pressed for Warner Brothers by the best pressing plant in Japan. They are the first WB Records titles to use this Japanese plant!



Both will be extremely limited-production-- one press run only, and will sell out fast. Inside info is that the Neil Young LP will sound phenomenal, and is an amazing performance.

That is all I needed to hear!

NK

[Nick 214]

For everyone else:

Michael Fremer (You should know who this is!) told me that the test copy he heard of the Neil Young was the best Neil Young disc he has ever heard. (I can't wait! )

NK

[mark_h]

Where is the UK equivalent of Music Direct?!

[Nick 214]

Originally Posted by mark_h

Where is the UK equivalent of Music Direct?!

I'm not sure....

Probably called "overseas shipping"

JK

NK

[xinxanadu]

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[hemal]

Sorry for taking too much time to get back to you. The two lps, referenced here, are not yet available, so I can't speak specifically about how THEY sound. What I can say, is that heavier vinyl-- I.e., above 160 grams or so-- sounds better for two reasons. First, it is less resonant and doesn't sing along as much to any vibration induced by the stylus playing the record, or bearing noise transmitted through the spindle and platter. Nor does it pick up as much airborne vibration-translation-better sound. Second, the grooves can be cut deeper in thicker vinyl, with less risk of cutting through the other side-- think about thicker paper being better since it is harder to see the print on the other side "bleeding" through.
There is some debate as to whether 200 gram sound any better than 180s. But some of the best sounding audiophile LPs are 180 gram pressings, e.g., the Music Matters Blue Note reissues, and they are phenomena

[Aadil]

hello man !
well thank u so very much for providing these useful information i was doing search on this topic and was collecting data thanks to all of u for sharing this knowledge.

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[Nick 214]

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Creative, though.

NK