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Old 02-08-2008, 11:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Volume Level Settings for Cowon D2 "Line Out"

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I have a question concerning what level should I put the volume on the D2 to "simulate" the Line Out?

I read somewhere it should be at 49/50 and somewhere else (iaudiophile) that per the graphs it is 34/50.

My main problem is that my search batteries got "emptied" and I just can not retrieve the information concerning this.lol

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Old 02-08-2008, 12:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Set the output level to 50. This will give you an approximate 0dB into a high impedance load - in other words 'line out'.
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Its not 50, and I don't trust the Cowon engineers enough for it to be 49.

Volume matching the L/O of the H120 @ 0dB, the 0 gain for the D2 seems to lie around the 46-47 mark instead.
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i believe that a silly person at iaudiophile sumised it was 34/50 and not 49 and i have to believe that. cowon do use way more processing in their daps than many other companies - for 49 to be a line out, it would not be explained by how the volume fluctuates as you go up the scale every five steps.

as well, volume increases near the end of the 5 steps, thus 49 would be a 4/5 on the hiss scale. 49 seems to be a somewhat random number. i don't think that they bloak who tested 34 usually uses good testing methods, but for this test, he did well.

after using d2 for 9 months or so and after many wonderful experiences, i cannot believe that it is anything else than 34. yet even so, it comes from the amplifier. it is a loaded signal.
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i believe that a silly person at iaudiophile sumised it was 34/50 and not 49 and i have to believe that. cowon do use way more processing in their daps than many other companies - for 49 to be a line out, it would not be explained by how the volume fluctuates as you go up the scale every five steps.

as well, volume increases near the end of the 5 steps, thus 49 would be a 4/5 on the hiss scale. 49 seems to be a somewhat random number. i don't think that they bloak who tested 34 usually uses good testing methods, but for this test, he did well.

after using d2 for 9 months or so and after many wonderful experiences, i cannot believe that it is anything else than 34. yet even so, it comes from the amplifier. it is a loaded signal.

Do you remember where this came from, the 34/50 level? a graph analysis or something?

At iaudiophile forum I found this today:

by DFKT:
"To simulate a line-out: Turn off all audio effects, lower all EQ bands to -12, turn volume to 49."

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i am sorry i cannot answer your question very well, but i think the user name was unclesam or something like that. the forum thread as well i cannot find right now (great help i am). i was excited to read:

Line Out on the D2: - iAudiophile.net Forums about a line out for the d2 - a proper one, but it seems that just cowon does not know its own players. it is too bad that such a contraption to reverse the in and out could not be made, but it does make sense. perhaps, the successor to the x5 will someday come out and fix all the problems the x5 had and add some good features, then cowon fans have something truly to rejoice about but until then, they really are just hyped players for the reasons of great processed sound.

i will continue looking for that thread, it was interesting, cheers.
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Do you remember where this came from, the 34/50 level? a graph analysis or something?

At iaudiophile forum I found this today:

by DFKT:
"To simulate a line-out: Turn off all audio effects, lower all EQ bands to -12, turn volume to 49."

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Could this "line-out" work with meizu M6 too? I try to do some testing.
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Just put your D2 at 50 (with no effects and EQ at zero) and enjoy your music, it's that simple.

EDIT: This is the thread you need to read: I MUST KNOW! D2 Measurements and Observations [LONG] - iAudiophile.net Forums

This shows that there is nothing wrong with using volume level 50.

There's a little set of speakers I use at work sometimes, they have insane amplification so I can use lvl 30 for them no problem. Use whatever level that you need to attain a good volume level without stressing your amplifier too much. Plus I have used my D2 on a fair variety of equipment and have yet to notice any distortion at any volume level.
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i read that 49 is the value...
but remember that all EQ, effect and whatsoever you did to change the music must be set to zero.
or that will not be alike to line-out.
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I tried this:
by DFKT:
"To simulate a line-out: Turn off all audio effects, lower all EQ bands to -12, turn volume to 49."

but I find having everything at -12db is bland . Not much soundstage. Liveless.

I use the 49/50 with EQ flat at 0db, no effects and sometimes using effect MPE on. Responds well to bass and the other frequencies. I like the wideness the sound takes and the corresponding soundstage

Currently using a LD MKIII as amp.

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