Samsung YP-P2 2nd Bluewave Upon us! Adds games, improves touch system, better than b4!! Video inside

[Captain Ødegård]

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

Interesting that you're saying that you make more money then me and yet whine about iPhone being expensive. Oh wait.. you're in norway? That means you don't have easy access to an iPhone.... And most likely have to pay jacked up prices to get one. Then again I recall electronics are far more expensive in europe then in Canada or USA. There is justice in the world indeed.



iTunes works well for managing music I prefer it to manually dragging folders around.



UMPC how useless! Internet tables even more useless. Truely hacks to a problem iphone solves. When I can fit an UMPC or an internet tablet in my pocket give me a call. Or not. Why would I want to suffer the horror that is Windows Tablet Edition versus iPhones super click and convenient interface? Even the smallest UMPC is enough of a brick to hit ppl over the head with! In addition to all that you STILL have to carry a phone around! If I am silly enough to consider a UMPC or an internet tablet I will hit myself over the head until I get some sense and get a ultra-portable laptop.

You might be a masochist but that doesn't apply to others.



Apparently you argue by using lies. Impressive. The original quote was:






Also you seem to assume a lot of things without actually knowing hard numbers behind it. Which indicates whatever you say is basically purely by 'mood of the moment' without any actual facts behind it. Even that statement itself is useless because it probably doesn't into account the incredibly expensive cost of living in Norway comparing to North America.

1: I dont want an iphone, so i dont care if i cant get one locally. Its crap
2: Yeah stuff is more expensive, and most of the time the two even out. I didnt say stuff was the same price, i said we make more money than you, and we do that. Also, noteverythign is as expensive as to make of for the salery difference, and we can also import stuff.
3: There are internet tablets with 4,2" screens, thats not that much bigger than the iphone. Actually its this much bigger. Ill gladly drag that extra size around if it means a keyboard, screen resolution big enough to actually read websites without some zoom function, and the fact that its a full blown LINUX computer. If i want something ultra portable the iphone surely doesnt count as that anyways, so i might as well go with something thats actually useful and not a novelty.
4: everyone hates you. go away and stop bugging people

[sigsegv0x0B]

Originally Posted by WalkGood

sigsegv0x0B another forum and yet another thread that you manage to derail, I personally had to close one and I’m not even keeping count. I for one feel that the great people of Head-Fi deserve an apology. It’s not even funny anymore, nuff said

I have nothing to be sorry for. I am confident my overall contribution to head-fi is for more useful then yours. On the other hand yet another admin from anythingbutipod.com (WalkGood) comes to this thread to do what?

[WalkGood]

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

I have nothing to be sorry for. I am confident my overall contribution to head-fi is for more useful then yours. On the other hand yet another admin from anythingbutipod.com (WalkGood) comes to this thread to do what?

Proof that everyone that reads doesn’t have the level of comprehension to understand


Edit: BTW, thanks for the promotion to Admin…heh…further proof that you don’t understand what you read, “Moderator,” as the title clearly states to the right of my nick on abi >>

[sigsegv0x0B]

Originally Posted by Captain Ødegård

1: I dont want an iphone, so i dont care if i cant get one locally. Its crap

I get it you do not like apple products. Why not just say so?

2: Yeah stuff is more expensive, and most of the time the two even out. I didnt say stuff was the same price, i said we make more money than you, and we do that. Also, noteverythign is as expensive as to make of for the salery difference, and we can also import stuff.

I do hope Norway makes more money then me. As good as my income is it would be hard to run a country on it. When you import stuff you most likely have a to pay a large tax. I would guess it would be at least 25% and possibly more. So the irony is that stuff in europe is so expensive that it makes sense to buy from the USA pay ~25% (or more)TAX and you will still come out ahead rather then buying locally. So yes I would say stuff is expensive indeed.

Also as far as the make more money then North American countries means you were probably looking at some statistics without fully understanding the complexity of such statements. North American countries are FAR larger then Norway with far larger populations and much larger diversity of people. This size disparity helps a lot to achieve Norway's very high statistic standards.

For example do you understand there are far more rich people in USA or Canada then in Norway?

Anyway I think you should stop making seem yourself ignorant and brining up Norway as a reason why you *think* you make more money then me based on average income statistics.

3: There are internet tablets with 4,2" screens, thats not that much bigger than the iphone. Actually its this much bigger. Ill gladly drag that extra size around if it means a keyboard, screen resolution big enough to actually read websites without some zoom function, and the fact that its a full blown LINUX computer.

See the problem is you most likely have never used an iPhone and have no idea what you are talking about. I on the other hand used an n810 and I do not find it convenient. If I want to carry around another device that is not a phone I would rather take an ultra portable PC with a good amount of CPU power and RAM and ability to run anything I want (as linux on ARM as the n810 does). And the n810 interface is still suffering same problems any other device would suffer. The need to use a stylus and both hands to operate.
It is obvious you've used an iPhone for all of 30 secs if ever without actually living with one for any amount of time. But you do hate it well.
There is also cost issue. an iPhone is cheaper then an n810 + Phone. And of course there is no need to carry two devices. Anyway there is no need for me to convince you since you clearly have little experience with the iPhone and are about as hateful of it as you can get.

If i want something ultra portable the iphone surely doesnt count as that anyways, so i might as well go with something thats actually useful and not a novelty.

This again shows your insignificant to none-existent experience with the device. iPhone is very useful and not a novelty. The n810 is a novelty indeed. It serves very little purpose in a very inconvenient device.

4: everyone hates you. go away and stop bugging people

You hate me and possibly a few more people at ABI because I have offended your religion. I wager most people do not.

Also are you guys going to call any more admins from ABI to come here?

[Walie]

you still haven't replied to my post, which pretty much is an admission of guilt on your part

also, you're saying that all these ABI mods are coming over here, its not like they're proclaiming anti-ipod stuff on this forum constantly, unlike you and your love of the ipod as seen on both forums

also, i'm pretty sure most people who come here hoping to read up on the P2 already find you annoying

[sigsegv0x0B]

Originally Posted by Walie

you still haven't replied to my post, which pretty much is an admission of guilt on your part

Guilty as charged. In post #26 http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f15/sa...7/#post3559297
I stated my reasons for not liking YP-P2 (i actually owned the device at one time so I do know what I am talking about). Since then it managed to devolve into this mostly by me repying to people who really hate the iTouch and are rather fact less about their accusations of it.

also, you're saying that all these ABI mods are coming over here, its not like they're proclaiming anti-ipod stuff on this forum constantly, unlike you and your love of the ipod as seen on both forums

No, infact I am not sure why they are coming here.

also, i'm pretty sure most people who come here hoping to read up on the P2 already find you annoying

They have already read up on the P2 in the first few posts. It has pretty much anything they need to know after that it has devolved into this fun thread.

[Trancefreak]

So lets assume your Iphone / Itouch / IGod is broken...
You lose a PDA, DMP and Cellphone in one. Knowing Apple is quite retarded about repairs ( rerember the battery-incident? ) you're....yes...fecked.

Goodluck with that.

Also remember to friggin respect everyones PERSONAL CHOICE!

Why do peeps buy a Mini Cooper Sport convertible when they can buy a Volvo C30 for less money and have the same confort ... etc?...

'Cos' they prefer so!

Now stop annoying us.

[Captain Ødegård]

The majority has decided, you are retarded. Personally i'm not spending more time explaining why people don't want your opinion as clearly your ego is way to big to even consider the notion that nobody cares if you disappear from the face of the planet. You want to run around with iphones makeing icalls and sufing the iNternet, fine, go do so, but stop telling everyone else about it. Happy easter

[DominicKarma]

I can't say "sigsegwhateverhisnameis" has actually said anything which could put someone off getting a P2, I mean other than his annoying habit of repeating, unnecessarily, what he has already said (over and over, and over) which goes something along the lines of "Wooohooo iPod YeaH!!!! P2 bleH" in a topic which has absolutely nothing to do with an ipod.. too me he comes off as a troll, and like all trolls no body remembers what they say down the line.

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So I was playing with the P2 today, it's quite a bit smaller than the touch (I sold my touch because I felt it was too big to be dedicated DAP@16gb and too small to be a dedicated movie/web browser) so i'm somewhat intrigued by what else it can do.

I'm not too sure about the GUI, it looks quite good though and seems quite responsive, so it must be a personal thing...

Should I get one...

hmmm

I just don't know, think I might hold out for a capacity boost...

[Aevum]

ok, screw this,

back to the thread, i just wanted to know how the use of bluetooth to connecto to the phone affects the battery life of the player,

[sigsegv0x0B]

Originally Posted by Captain Ødegård

The majority has decided, you are retarded. Personally i'm not spending more time explaining why people don't want your opinion as clearly your ego is way to big to even consider the notion that nobody cares if you disappear from the face of the planet. You want to run around with iphones makeing icalls and sufing the iNternet, fine, go do so, but stop telling everyone else about it. Happy easter

At least you have an Ego large enough to consider yourself majority. I actually enjoy the fact that you choose to attack me and not my arguments. It basically proves I am correct in what I am saying since you're not actually disputing it but trying to insult me. I have no way to count how many people would care if I disappear from the face of the planet but I would say neither do you for yourself. Then again it does appear you prefer to argue based on whatever you feel like without having any facts backing up whatever it is you say.

[sigsegv0x0B]

Originally Posted by Trancefreak

So lets assume your Iphone / Itouch / IGod is broken...
You lose a PDA, DMP and Cellphone in one. Knowing Apple is quite retarded about repairs ( rerember the battery-incident? ) you're....yes...fecked.

Goodluck with that.

Again this is a silly notion that apple is any different about repairs from other manufactures. My personal experience with apple has been great so far. They replaced my almost dead macbook battery for free. I washed my iPod Nano in my jeans at one point and it started behaving weirdly. Brought it to apple store and said it 'it broke' I omitted 'washed in the washing machine' part naturally. They inspected it and replaced it. So I have no problems with apple warranty by your standard any large company is 'fecked'. Apple's track record is about the same as any large electronics maker. Possibly a little better.

Also remember to friggin respect everyones PERSONAL CHOICE!

Everyone can do whatever they like on the internet personal choice is always respected. I didn't say any one owning a P2 is non-human I simply stated my reasons why I think iPhone or the touch is a better device.

Why do peeps buy a Mini Cooper Sport convertible when they can buy a Volvo C30 for less money and have the same confort ... etc?...

Because Mini Cooper is a BMW while a Volvo is a Ford Seriously though I do not like either make

'Cos' they prefer so!

Now stop annoying us.

You are annoying yourself I am just replying to your(or others) often false and ignorant statements. If you are annoyed you can choose not to reply.

[DominicKarma]

Originally Posted by Aevum

ok, screw this,

back to the thread, i just wanted to know how the use of bluetooth to connecto to the phone affects the battery life of the player,

When I read about that in the update log the first thing that sprung to mind was that it'd kill the battery life... if no P2 user here can answer the question I'll ask some of our DAPreview members...

P.S. sigseg is an iTroll , Troll piggy troll, til your hearts content, I won't stop ya.

[ZenChick]

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

No, infact I am not sure why they are coming here.

If you take a close look at the dates each of us ABi staff has joined Head-
Fi, you'll find that most of us have been here long before you. We did not join because of you. Don't flatter yourself.

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

They have already read up on the P2 in the first few posts. It has pretty much anything they need to know after that it has devolved into this fun thread.

I wonder how that happened...

Let's review the thread, shall we:

1. The thread started off as an announcement for the P2's new firmware
2. You jumped in with a completely unrelated post about the iPhone
3. Someone challenged your assertion about the iPhone
4. You took grave offense to having your religion challenged

And here we are.

[arnoldsoccer4]

Originally Posted by DominicKarma

When I read about that in the update log the first thing that sprung to mind was that it'd kill the battery life... if no P2 user here can answer the question I'll ask some of our DAPreview members...

P.S. sigseg is an iTroll , Troll piggy troll, til your hearts content, I won't stop ya.

I have one, I can run a test for you guys if you want me too and cannot find any info elsewhere, I will test by playing all my music with headphones connected at half volume with bluetooth off, and then with it on.

As much as he pisses everyone off including me, don't feed him, and just ignore his posts, no matter how much he irks you, if we don't reply he will have nothing to say. I feel for you abi mods.