Samsung YP-P2 2nd Bluewave Upon us! Adds games, improves touch system, better than b4!! Video inside

[DominicKarma]

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

No forcing people would be putting a gun to their head, this is just expressing an opinion. I always thought the difference was easy to spot. Guess not....

You _cannot_ differentiate between expressing an opinion and forcing an opinion upon someone! This is overly clear, not only in this thread, but many other similar threads, and is reinforced by the comments of other members regarding your actions on other boards.

Ignorance _is not_ an excuse.

[dfkt]

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

Case in POINT about maturity of anythingbutipod police. dkft is the admin on there seems to be patrolling head-fi for dissidents.

As you might notice I've been on Head-Fi for quite some time now. I'm not patrolling or anything, but I do enjoy a good read. Too bad I can't escape your ridiculous drivel here... but I sure enjoy not having to read that trollish crap over on ABI anymore.

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

i didn't know anythingbutipod had a no badmouthing us on other forums policy. Please put into the FAQ so when I delete my abi cookies and re-register as sigsegv2 i have a policy to follow not to get banned again.

Please do that, it sure seems to give you great pleasure being on a forum where you're loved by everyone.

[Warhawk]

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

Actually that's exactly what happens on anythingbutipod. Pretty much any thread with someone asking about a dap instead of an ipod has everyone on the forum replying the first reason to throw away the ipod is because of it's poor sound quality.

Sound quality is the whole reason of getting a DAP, you listen to music on a digital AUDIO player.
The features are just a +, so the quality should be considered before features.

Now I know the touch is really cool, because I've played with it and love the feel of it.
That's actually the first ipod that I actually like, the rest are crap.
The classic is only good for thousands upon thousands of songs and hundreds of videos, and good for putting games and stuff on it in ums mode, nano...is just good for being 6.5 mm thin.
And seriously, I've held a 2nd gen nano and I felt like I would accidently break it, even though it has metal plating.

The only thing I would do with a touch would be to play with wifi and other hacked features.
Other than that, paying $400 for wifi internet isn't worth it for me.

I'm not an apple hater, just not a fanboy.

[sigsegv0x0B]

Originally Posted by Captain Ødegård

When a person comes to a forum called ANYTHING BUT IPOD and asks for a dap, and people recommend ANYTHING BUT IPODS, does that indicate some sort of connection between the site name and peoples action to you? Because it does to me. Maybe I'm just crazy.

When you have a forum called anythingbutroundwheels.com and a person asks what car should I buy to get from home to work and work to home daily? Should people suggest square wheels? Or perhaps they should say. Well in your case you would be better suited by a car with round wheels, but you if really want square wheels here are the better choices.... On anythingbutsquare wheels it usually goes like this "OMFG another person wakes up and stops driving with round wheels!!".

As for the ipood dutch and the imoun.. the first is a nice concept that would have been nice had it been half the price, didnt need accessories costing half a countries annual budget

It would be nice if it would be half the price but unfortunately this is not communism and a company should change the maximum people are willing to pay. I believe in this system I guess you do not yet still choose to live where? On the other hand since device has no real competition gives them this ability to extract premium prices.

didnt require itunes

Interesting, I find iTunes is a *good* thing. Alternatives are WMP11? iTunes wins every time. I do not like managing my music files myself and I prefer itunes to other solutions. Also because in the real world the protocol has been reverse engineered there are billion of ways to use it without itunes on any operating system of choice. Also it works as a UMS device that can be used for storage which is helpful because iPods as of late have been the leaders of their size-class for capacity.

and had a web browser where such things as downloading actually was possible.

Yes you're correct. However at this time in the real world the alternatives are:

1. No browser at all
2. A dream that a device (YP-P2) might at some point have a we browser
3. Opera on a PDA (like X50v) is a horrible HORRIBLE expirence comparing to safari on the iphone/itouch.
4. Jailbroken ipod touch can easily download files by the way.... or do anything a pda can.

Anything I forgot?

Epic fail. as for the latter of the two, well, its a phone with a known name that has about the same tech specs as a budget phone two years ago. No 3g, and you cant even film with the camera. Personally I'd take the P2's abilities to connect to a real phone over that flat piece of wannabe-cellphone anyday.

True no 3G yet. Same specs? I am confused in what way does iPhone have the same specs? I owned a lot of smart-phones before the iPhone. iPhone BLOWS them all away easily. I had SE T616, SE T637, HTC Typhoon, SE K512, HTC Apache, HTC Touch. All of those are junk comparing to the iphone. They're all a pita in real use! Where iPhone is pure joy. But I understand that you at most have played with the device for maybe 30min and have very little clue at how good the iPhone is. On the other hand spec sheets are very impressive and you can buy a device based on it.. enjoy your whatever.

BTW, google "multi quote"

Get a job so you can afford all these great devices and whine about itouch cost!

[Captain Ødegård]

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

When you have a forum called anythingbutroundwheels.com and a person asks what car should I buy to get from home to work and work to home daily? Should people suggest square wheels? Or perhaps they should say. Well in your case you would be better suited by a car with round wheels, but you if really want square wheels here are the better choices.... On anythingbutsquare wheels it usually goes like this "OMFG another person wakes up and stops driving with round wheels!!".

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

It would be nice if it would be half the price but unfortunately this is not communism and a company should change the maximum people are willing to pay. I believe in this system I guess you do not yet still choose to live where? On the other hand since device has no real competition gives them this ability to extract premium prices.

Norway. We earn about twice what you canadians do, and despite swedish people being a tad funny at times, i prefer them over living next to a country rules by an insane president

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

Interesting, I find iTunes is a *good* thing. Alternatives are WMP11? iTunes wins every time. I do not like managing my music files myself and I prefer itunes to other solutions. Also because in the real world the protocol has been reverse engineered there are billion of ways to use it without itunes on any operating system of choice. Also it works as a UMS device that can be used for storage which is helpful because iPods as of late have been the leaders of their size-class for capacity.

Oh my, its better than wmp11. Too bad noone has made some system to allow adding music files without software at all. Oh well

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

Yes you're correct. However at this time in the real world the alternatives are:

1. No browser at all
2. A dream that a device (YP-P2) might at some point have a we browser
3. Opera on a PDA (like X50v) is a horrible HORRIBLE expirence comparing to safari on the iphone/itouch.
4. Jailbroken ipod touch can easily download files by the way.... or do anything a pda can.

Anything I forgot?

Yes. Internet tablets and UMPCs. Google it

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

iPhone BLOWS

Indeed it does

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

Get a job so you can afford all these great devices and whine about itouch cost!

Have a job. Refer to the "make more money than you" part

[ZenChick]

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

Actually that's exactly what happens on anythingbutipod. Pretty much any thread with someone asking about a dap instead of an ipod has everyone on the forum replying the first reason to throw away the ipod is because of it's poor sound quality.

Even when someone asks for certain features where iPod would make the best choice people on the forum steer the person away from the ipod. Even if that device will CLEARLY not be as convenient at the tasks the person requested.

Call me crazy; but when a person signs onto a site called "Anything But iPod", creates a thread asking for DAP recommendations stating he does not want an iPod, is it at all possible that maybe he does not want an iPod? Wouldn't that make your recommendation that he get an iPod undesired, irrelevant, and unwarranted?

Instead of taking a hint when this fact was brought to your attention, you decided to attack members and get into arguments with the staff, resulting in the closure of at least two threads.

The problem here is not ABi and its staff. The problem here is you. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you can avoid making a complete ass of yourself on high-profile forums like Head-Fi.

By the way:

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

When you have a forum called anythingbutroundwheels.com and a person asks what car should I buy to get from home to work and work to home daily? Should people suggest square wheels?
[snip... it only gets worse from here]

I'm getting the distinct impression that the only real friends you have are the plethora of straw men you've erected all over the interwebs.

[TSi]

you know, ive been reading this stuff for quite a long time, but then this guy actually gave me a chance to actually write something down there and reply.

im not saying itouch is bad or nething, i personally am (and still) deciding to go either itouch or ypp2. but when something goes out of hand, aka...sigsegv0x08... tats when u gotta take a step back and look at urself.

1. abi clearly states that its "ANYTHING BUT IPOD" oh wait, lemme spell it out for u. A N Y T H I N G B U T I P O D. wait.. you still dont get that? it emans, ANYTHING WITH AN APPLE LOGO = NONO
so basically, this site is obviously gonna be against ipods...

2. i personally use a mac, i personally have an ipod nano 2nd gen, and wait... lemme get one thing straight... IPOD NANO 2ND GEN SUCKS. MOD EDIT

3. i personally like itunes and the w/e music player, but i could care less. which one i use. for you, it has to be... ABNA.... aka... ANTHING BUT NOT APPLE. your a hardass fanboy, and guess what, no one likes u

4. YPP2 white looks 10 times sexier than an itouch. period. wait, let me shove that down YOUR THROAT and make sure u got that message. YPP2, yes, the touch samsung, WHITE VERSION, is 10 times sexier. now stop crying

[Mweisbrod]

dont feed the troll. we all know who the troll is. dont feed him.

[sigsegv0x0B]

Originally Posted by Captain Ødegård

Norway. We earn about twice what you canadians do, and despite swedish people being a tad funny at times, i prefer them over living next to a country rules by an insane president

Interesting that you're saying that you make more money then me and yet whine about iPhone being expensive. Oh wait.. you're in norway? That means you don't have easy access to an iPhone.... And most likely have to pay jacked up prices to get one. Then again I recall electronics are far more expensive in europe then in Canada or USA. There is justice in the world indeed.

Oh my, its better than wmp11. Too bad noone has made some system to allow adding music files without software at all. Oh well

iTunes works well for managing music I prefer it to manually dragging folders around.

Yes. Internet tablets and UMPCs. Google it

UMPC how useless! Internet tables even more useless. Truely hacks to a problem iphone solves. When I can fit an UMPC or an internet tablet in my pocket give me a call. Or not. Why would I want to suffer the horror that is Windows Tablet Edition versus iPhones super click and convenient interface? Even the smallest UMPC is enough of a brick to hit ppl over the head with! In addition to all that you STILL have to carry a phone around! If I am silly enough to consider a UMPC or an internet tablet I will hit myself over the head until I get some sense and get a ultra-portable laptop.

You might be a masochist but that doesn't apply to others.

Indeed it does

Apparently you argue by using lies. Impressive. The original quote was:

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0b

True no 3G yet. Same specs? I am confused in what way does iPhone have the same specs? I owned a lot of smart-phones before the iPhone. iPhone BLOWS them all away easily. I had SE T616, SE T637, HTC Typhoon, SE K512, HTC Apache, HTC Touch. All of those are junk comparing to the iphone. They're all a pita in real use! Where iPhone is pure joy. But I understand that you at most have played with the device for maybe 30min and have very little clue at how good the iPhone is. On the other hand spec sheets are very impressive and you can buy a device based on it.. enjoy your whatever.

Have a job. Refer to the "make more money than you" part

Also you seem to assume a lot of things without actually knowing hard numbers behind it. Which indicates whatever you say is basically purely by 'mood of the moment' without any actual facts behind it. Even that statement itself is useless because it probably doesn't into account the incredibly expensive cost of living in Norway comparing to North America.

[sigsegv0x0B]

Originally Posted by ZenChick

Call me crazy; but when a person signs onto a site called "Anything But iPod", creates a thread asking for DAP recommendations stating he does not want an iPod, is it at all possible that maybe he does not want an iPod? Wouldn't that make your recommendation that he get an iPod undesired, irrelevant, and unwarranted?

Like I said if a person asked for a way to get home I would recommend the best way to do it. It is funny that the fact it's an iPod enrages the ABI people like religious fanatics.

Instead of taking a hint when this fact was brought to your attention, you decided to attack members and get into arguments with the staff, resulting in the closure of at least two threads.

The problem here is not ABi and its staff. The problem here is you. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you can avoid making a complete ass of yourself on high-profile forums like Head-Fi.

I don't care about making an ass of myself. I will say however I see things. It is interesting that ABI moderators are coming here to defend ABI (DKFT, ZenChick, Captain Ødegård) and are finding varying ways of insulting me.

By the way:

I'm getting the distinct impression that the only real friends you have are the plethora of straw men you've erected all over the interwebs.

Case in point. Personal insults from ABI's mature staff

Here are few examples of me making an ass of my self on a high profile forum by proving quotes of the anythingbutipod.com moderators quotes in this thread:

Originally Posted by Captain Ødegård

How about going somewhere else? WE DONT LIKE YOU. We have no interest in having your eiffel tower inhibited ******* on our forum, maybe you should take that as a hint. Normal people tend to stay away from places where peopl ehate their guts, surely an enlightened audiophile like yourself have other places you can make miserable.

Next moderator

Originally Posted by ZenChick

I'm getting the distinct impression that the only real friends you have are the plethora of straw men you've erected all over the interwebs.

Anyway here is the link to the thread that started this hate of me initially on that forum. To me it doesn't feel unreasonable. But anyone finding this drama entertaining read this and enjoy

The reasons why the iPod isn't the best DAP - abi>>forums

[Walie]

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

But I do get upset when people start comparing the YP-P2 to iPod touch.

Originally Posted by Walie

please find one example of that happening in this thread before you stepped in with your propaganda.

you seem to be enthusiastically replying to all the posts that question your motives...except mine. I'm still waiting for your response

oh yeah, attacking people based on where they live in the world and their economical environment...classless

[sigsegv0x0B]

Originally Posted by Walie

you seem to be enthusiastically replying to all the posts that question your motives...except mine. I'm still waiting for your response

oh yeah, attacking people based on where they live in the world and their economical environment...classless

I didn't attack anyone. I said electronics are more expensive in Norway then in North America. That is a FACT which is true.

I said iPhone is harder to get in Norway and more expensive to get then in North America. That is a FACT and it's true.

No attacking here.

I reply to posts I feel need a reply. I guess which ever post you made didn't seem to me like something I needed to reply to.

[Walie]

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

I reply to posts I feel need a reply. I guess which ever post you made didn't seem to me like something I needed to reply to.

Since you're not willing to admit it i'll explain it to you

The first 7 posts of this thread was about the upgraded bluetooth abilities for the p2, not once was a comparison made between the P2 and the iphone/ipod touch. Your first post in this thread was number 8, which was when you stepped in warbling about the iphone.

Post #24 suggested an p2 vs iphone thread to keep this thread on topic as it became derailed thanks to your intervention as mentioned above.

Post #26 was you admitting that you get upset whenever a comparison is made between the p2 and the iphone, which was never made in this thread before you came in

I then asked you to point out where such a comparison was made in this thread before you stepped in, and here is where we are now

hopefully this post is something worth replying to

[ZenChick]

Originally Posted by sigsegv0x0B

Like I said if a person asked for a way to get home I would recommend the best way to do it. It is funny that the fact it's an iPod enrages the ABI people like religious fanatics.

[...]

Anyway here is the link to the thread that started this hate of me initially on that forum. To me it doesn't feel unreasonable. But anyone finding this drama entertaining read this and enjoy

Did you mean this thread?
Help me to not buy another iFollow (Looking for DAP reccomendations) -- abi>>forums

[WalkGood]

sigsegv0x0B another forum and yet another thread that you manage to derail, I personally had to close one and I’m not even keeping count. I for one feel that the great people of Head-Fi deserve an apology. It’s not even funny anymore, nuff said