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06-16-2009, 07:02 PM
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Recommend me a high capacity DAP with great SQ
Hi all,
Well my Sony X ownership was somewhat fleeting...
Too many issues with it, laggy screen, awful browser, limited storage (32GB), no lossless support (FLAC)...
What I'm looking for is a high capacity DAP with great SQ and lossless support.
Any Ideas, suggestions please...
By high capacity i mean in excess of 60GB.
PS: Is there any DAP out there that supports 24/96Khz playback?
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06-16-2009, 08:00 PM
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06-16-2009, 08:03 PM
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What on earth is an Imod?
I must add though I DO NOT want to use a headphone amp...
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06-16-2009, 08:13 PM
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a modded Ipod
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06-16-2009, 08:17 PM
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imod = a modded ipod that has the amp bypassed, meaning you have to use a headphone amp.
I guess if you want something that large, the only new players that do it are the zune and a stock ipod.
Otherwise, you could try finding a creative vision:m 60gb version. (i'm not sure if these are still in production)
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06-16-2009, 08:42 PM
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Whats the SQ like on the Zune's?
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06-16-2009, 08:51 PM
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Zune 80 and Zune 120. Unless you dont want to use WMA Lossless and the Zune software.
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a notch below the Sony and Cowon players.
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06-16-2009, 08:59 PM
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I'm afraid you already had the bestsounding player...
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06-16-2009, 09:33 PM
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It may have had good sound but 32GB is just not enough...
In addition the quirky UI was getting to be a pain.
Just wish Sony could release a 120GB HDD player.
So really my only choice is the Zune 120?
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06-17-2009, 09:25 AM
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Great SQ, high capacity, support FLAC....
maybe a 32gb Cowon line (S9/O2/Q5) with 32gb SDHC external memory card?
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06-17-2009, 09:50 AM
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Cowon Q5 is too big...
Cowon O2...Again far too big!
And the Cowon S9...Only 32GB with no possibility of expansion...
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how about Kenwood HD60GD9??
Sound quality is one of the best, 60gb capacity, support KLAC (kenwood loseless)
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06-17-2009, 11:43 AM
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I heard the Kenwood is super expensive!
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06-17-2009, 04:43 PM
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There was a similar thread about this, recently: Hi capacity DAP with drag and drop?
So far, you mentioned the following:
- Lossless support (and FLAC was specifically mentioned)
- 80+ GB storage
- No amp requirement
- Not too large in size
If you need FLAC, then the 120GB Zunes and iPods are out (one supports WMA Lossless, the other ALAC). Which makes covering bullets #2 and #4 very difficult.
My only suggestion, other than a D2 with multiple SD cards, is an iRiver Hxxx or Gigabeat F, with a HDD mod + Rockbox. It's a DIY, but it would fill all the above requirements. I'm not sure if Rockbox does 24/96Khz FLAC playback, as I've never tried it.
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06-17-2009, 05:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roebeet
There was a similar thread about this, recently: Hi capacity DAP with drag and drop?
So far, you mentioned the following:
- Lossless support (and FLAC was specifically mentioned)
- 80+ GB storage
- No amp requirement
- Not too large in size
If you need FLAC, then the 120GB Zunes and iPods are out (one supports WMA Lossless, the other ALAC). Which makes covering bullets #2 and #4 very difficult.
My only suggestion, other than a D2 with multiple SD cards, is an iRiver Hxxx or Gigabeat F, with a HDD mod + Rockbox. It's a DIY, but it would fill all the above requirements. I'm not sure if Rockbox does 24/96Khz FLAC playback, as I've never tried it.
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What I've gleaned from the rockbox forums is that there's no accomodation for word lengths other than 16 bits, regardless of whether the codec in a given dap might support more or less.
It's open source, so, that can always be fixed.
Dunno that I've seen a DAP with a 96khz dac in it, though.
Edit: Whoops - the wm8751l in the gigabeat F will do 96khz and word lengths up to 32 bits. No idea if rockbox is set up to try though.
But i agree - an F40 with an mk1214gah shoehorned into it with a zif adapter (or an X60, which has the same parts and doesn't need a zif adapter - but good luck finding one) would do the job, though you might have to pay some coder to add 24-bit support to rockbox. Not exactly svelt though.
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