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Well, with an amp and a headphone out, my Touch sounds "OK". It is roughly equivalent to my Archos AV500 unamped with a headphone out, though it has a much thinner sound signature.
Without an amp, the Touch is unacceptable. I almost refuse to listen to music through it. The Touch combined with my Denons make for a LOT of background noise. However, the accessibility, ease of use, and smooth GUI of the Touch is awesome, and the wifi/safari is absolutely exceptional.
However, my LOD is on it's way. As soon as I get it, I will post a review. I'm hoping for great things. :clap:
Here is a frequency response curve for the 8gb part.
I really admire the platform the touch is going to be in a while. I think that justifies the premium you are currently paying for it.
However, baseline sq definitely has to improve. There is also way too much hiss on the units I have tried.
Here is a frequency response curve for the 8gb part.
I really admire the platform the touch is going to be in a while. I think that justifies the premium you are currently paying for it.
However, baseline sq definitely has to improve. There is also way too much hiss on the units I have tried.
That frequency response curve looks amazingly bad, how accurat is it? I didn't really like the Touchs SQ either when I listened to it, I would have bought it if I did.
__________________ Home Rig: Xindak Muse Deluxe 1.0 07 Edition with Reflektor 6H23N-EB tubes - Rotel RA-06 - DENON AH-D2000
Portable/transportable: Creative Zen - Koss Ksc-75, Sennheiser PX-100, Denon AH-D2000
well, as i said earlier i listen to trance, the faster the better. the d2 gets very confused and has no depth to the bass. it is all just booms, though not out of control booms. the touch however handles those tracks with finesse.
the d2 is not bad, but... i do not find it nearly what i had hoped. without eq it is rubbish but the ipod without eq is very very good: controlled, solid and not going out on either end of the spectrum while maintaining a good soundstage.
Jumping for the sake of the thread, but I also disagree heartily with shigzeo's opinion here. My D2 does really well with trance tracks and satisfied my needs for midbass->bass detail and spacing.
That frequency response curve looks amazingly bad, how accurat is it? I didn't really like the Touchs SQ either when I listened to it, I would have bought it if I did.
Very accurate using professional equipment (hifi magazine) and 32 ohm load (ipod stock buds)
You said that the touch measured very good with professional equipment but when I look at that curve it seems very bad, very much treble and a constant roll of all the way down to 20hz.
__________________ Home Rig: Xindak Muse Deluxe 1.0 07 Edition with Reflektor 6H23N-EB tubes - Rotel RA-06 - DENON AH-D2000
Portable/transportable: Creative Zen - Koss Ksc-75, Sennheiser PX-100, Denon AH-D2000
You said that the touch measured very good with professional equipment but when I look at that curve it seems very bad, very much treble and a constant roll of all the way down to 20hz.
There seems to be some misunderstanding. What I meant was the test equipment used allows for very accurate assays. The results that the touch delivered were bad, indeed.
It doesn't take take equipment to confirm that the iPod Touch's output isn't great. Going in I knew this would be so. But I really wanted the unique web surfing experience and the high tweak factor so I compromised. Having accepted its sound limitations, my ears simply acclimatize to its sound signature. When I stop being critical and simply listen to relax, it does a fine job. Though I am picky with songs it can render well.
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