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| Portable Source Gear Discussion of portable audio source gear, like iPods, other digital audio players (DAPs), MD players, portable CD players. |
09-08-2007, 07:20 PM
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iPod Classic vs Zune 1st gen (sq from headphone jack)
Who's got an answer to this one. i'm not too happy w my zune...about to get apple trigger happy
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09-09-2007, 03:11 PM
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hmm interested in this question myself. heard Zune had great sq, so if 6g can match it its great.
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09-09-2007, 03:34 PM
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well i have no expierence with the zune...but i ordered my 80 gig ipod classic yesterday, ill let you know what i think
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09-09-2007, 03:36 PM
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iLounge said something like the iPod classic was the best sounding iPod ever (and there's less hiss, which is a big thing for me), but I can't comment on how it sounds against the Zune.
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09-09-2007, 04:05 PM
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The zune was completely quiet with my ES2 while the ipod classic has a little bit of hiss
It's a massive improvement over the old ipods though, the hiss was almost unbearable
As for overall SQ, i'm not sure on which is better.. Zune probably has more of a neutral sound while ipods has a more 'fun' sound
The ipod has an advantage, it can have a lineout
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09-10-2007, 05:27 AM
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i used super.fi 3 on a zune and ipod video...both had equal amount of hiss (moderate), i think ipod a but more.
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09-10-2007, 04:31 PM
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I hear no hiss out of a Zune om my UM2s, which hiss on almost everything else.
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09-10-2007, 06:21 PM
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The classic need rockbox. Dunno about the likely-hood, but it sure does do wonders about the hiss.
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09-10-2007, 10:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manaox2
The classic need rockbox. Dunno about the likely-hood, but it sure does do wonders about the hiss.
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The Classic doesn't have much if any hiss to begin with. The 4G by comparison sounds like a hiss generator.
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09-10-2007, 10:32 PM
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How about the Classic just needs rockbox, period. I would consider buying the new iPod if it could run rockbox without being detrimental to the battery life.
Good to be hearing/reading all these positive reviews about the Classic's sound quality. It's making it harder to pass over the "buy now" button. 
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09-10-2007, 10:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YamiTenshi
How about the Classic just needs rockbox, period. I would consider buying the new iPod if it could run rockbox without being detrimental to the battery life.
Good to be hearing/reading all these positive reviews about the Classic's sound quality. It's making it harder to pass over the "buy now" button. |
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09-10-2007, 10:55 PM
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Hiss (HD650 and E500; LO with RSA Hornet)
--Zune: HO=none, LO=N/A[1]
--iPod6G: HO= none, LO=NONE
*Very* difficult discerning SQ differences between iPod6G HO AND LO with e500s.
Take following with very large grain of salt...
My observations below utilize a DIY LOD and mini-to-mini not quite the highest quality (wire-wise).
ipod6G LO vs.Zune HO at full volume with both-->RSA-Hornet-->e500s and HD650 (volume matched)
--Zune: Very clean, good bloom, good depth, good air (ambiance), very non-fatiguing.
--iPod6g: a bit more forward, less depth, less air, less bloom, brighter, possibly fatiguing (jury still out).
For SQ I think I prefer Zune. Seems more like good high-end reproduction to me. But lack of HD space and lousy battery life is a major bummer.
[1] zune line out via doc is amplified via doc--no hiss though
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09-11-2007, 12:10 AM
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Quote:
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*Very* difficult discerning SQ differences between iPod6G HO AND LO with e500s.
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So according to your tests, the iPod 6g sounds basically the same HO and LO? interesting.
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09-11-2007, 12:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lustaficko
So according to your tests, the iPod 6g sounds basically the same HO and LO? interesting.
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Jury still out. My LOD could be much better, and a different headphone amp might prove more revealing. Also, I didn't test with lossless, just tested with 320mp3.
So take qll this with a heaping big grain of salt.
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09-11-2007, 12:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ingwe
Jury still out. My LOD could be much better, and a different headphone amp might prove more revealing. Also, I didn't test with lossless, just tested with 320mp3.
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Oh, I know. I was deciding to buy one of these players and was planning to use just the headphone jack as my output. It seems like the Zune would be a better choice for headphone only, but the ability for the iPod to have an amp and the user interface just about decided it for me. Besides it probably doesn't sound *that* bad.
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