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09-07-2007, 10:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfB
Hey, you know you won't need two of those!
BTW: I have found some interesting looking cases here.
Sorry, German language only, but I'm sure you'll find a suitable size. Made of alloy, prices start at approx. $16 for the smaller ones. Check it out and PM me, if you are interested.
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Ahem...the other 2 are already spoken for
Dan I wish I could understand German, well my ideal box should be 1.2" height, 4" length and 2.7" wide.
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09-07-2007, 10:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EFN
Ahem...the other 2 are already spoken for
Dan I wish I could understand German, well my ideal box should be 1.2" height, 4" length and 2.7" wide.

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Okay, size and price of the smaller cases are:
2.28" x 2.52" x 1.42", €13,95
1.97" x 1.78" x 1.18", €12,95
5.91" x 2.52" x 1.42", €19,95 €1=$1.35
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09-07-2007, 11:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfB
Okay, size and price of the smaller cases are:
2.28" x 2.52" x 1.42", €13,95
1.97" x 1.78" x 1.18", €12,95
5.91" x 2.52" x 1.42", €19,95 €1=$1.35
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Hey buddy. Thanks but I think the dimensions are not suitable for my application. Methinks I will fabricate my own box using plastic plates. Gonna try this weekend.
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09-07-2007, 01:12 PM
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Input Impedance of the Zin Micro?
EFN...
Do you by any chance know the input impedance of the micro?
Just trying to see how much play one might have for reducing the size of the capacitors..without hearing any auditory impact.
I was going to post a note to Zin asking him on his forum...but am having registration issues.
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09-07-2007, 03:13 PM
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you know? adding resistor in IC will decrease sound quality from source to amp?
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09-07-2007, 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WindowsX
you know? adding resistor in IC will decrease sound quality from source to amp?
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I'm guessing that was in response to my post asking about the input impedance of the Xin superMicro...
Notice that the intent of the question was to support calculating the low frequency rolloff of the caps in an LOD design for an iMod. ...to understand the sizing constraints on those caps when used with that particular amp.
...or did i totally missunderstand your post?
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09-07-2007, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
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EFN...
Do you by any chance know the input impedance of the micro?
Just trying to see how much play one might have for reducing the size of the capacitors..without hearing any auditory impact.
I was going to post a note to Zin asking him on his forum...but am having registration issues.
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Sorry I don't know the input impedance for SMIV. You gotta ask Xin himself I am afraid
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09-07-2007, 04:16 PM
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EFN, where did you order those new v-caps from and how much were they? I dont see them on this price sheet.
http://v-cap.com/tefloncapacitors.html
Thanks,
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My Current Rig (which I enjoy just as much): 80 GB 6th Gen Black iPod Classic -> UE Triple.Fi 10 Pro (445/1000)
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09-07-2007, 04:21 PM
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Clay, those are OIMPs V-Cap. Teflon V-Caps only have the max capacitance of 3.3 uF.
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09-07-2007, 04:21 PM
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I think I found them.
http://v-cap.com/oilcapacitors.html
$87.99
Is that right?
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My Current Rig (which I enjoy just as much): 80 GB 6th Gen Black iPod Classic -> UE Triple.Fi 10 Pro (445/1000)
My Rotation: The Roots, Tool, Weezer, Buena Vista Social Club, Q-Tip, Bright Eyes, Ray Lamontagne, Wilco
My Wish List: N/A - Currently satisfied :)
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09-07-2007, 04:28 PM
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Quote:
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Bingo!
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09-07-2007, 08:53 PM
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I know you aren't even close to burning those v-caps in yet, but any first impressions?
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09-08-2007, 04:26 AM
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MKIII for Franken ShuttlePod is here! Savor the pics and let me share with you what this monster can offer
At this stage, for those who have listened to iMod with boutique caps, there's no denying the sheer supremacy of the output. My MK-I dock as seen earlier was a Mundorf M-Cap ZN (4.7 uF) and that monster has been nothing but a wonder to behold (listen rather). So you guys have read my impressions on the M-Caps. Now I will compare MK-I with the latest newly constructed MKIII.
Design wise, you can see that MK-III offers more compact form factor with "discrete" cables hardwired using Eichmann Silver Solder with the shortest length possible. For this dock I have been requested to use Solid Core SPC instead of Canare Coppers - yes this dock is not mine, it's for a Head-Fier who has been very keen on getting his hands on the first MK-III dock. Personally I loved the simplified look. But there's a catch, this dock will not tolerate excessive strain and it will break if mishandled with carelessness.
Ok on to the sound. I decided to run Diana Krall's tracks for this test ride and......
WOW!!! - no burn in and fresh as a newborn, but already the dynamics are on par with my M-Caps ZN (be reminded that my M-Caps has over 300 hours on them).
As per expected, these boutique caps have no issues with projecting very wide sound. Immediately I can identify the "minor" differences compared to my M-Caps.
- Utterly NEUTRAL! mind boggling balance in all areas. Makes my M-Caps colored in comparison because M-Caps ZN are very lush and warm
- Distinct separation between instruments - as if each instrument sources get focused individually - and I mean really focused because if I choose to follow the trail of certain sound I can do so with liquid ease. I am not saying that instrument separation on the other caps combo is bad; it's just that this V-Cap monster excelled way better than the rest
- VERY Analogue! Yes this I loved the most. Just like the M-Cap, there's that "easy" and organic tonality to the sound which makes for an enjoyable listening experience. There's no glare or hardness to the body, just liquid ease
- Concise textured bass - much similar to M-Caps performance and perhaps a bit more detailed. It's easy to follow the bass curve and digest the extension. But take note that M-Cap ZN offers stronger pounding slam to the bass response, V-Caps a little bit reserved in slam but then again we are talking about caps with barely 12 hours in them.
- Silky edged highs - oh the taming of extended highs is audibly better than M-Caps ZN. There's no opportunity for peaky sections to singe my eardrums (which I get a lot using g Black Gate caps (NX-HiQ Series). Treble junkies will not be disappointed with the performance
- Similar performance here in the mids, both M-Caps and V-Caps deliver rich intimate performance. But when I say intimate I do not mean forward sounding. They are placed just nice so as not to overwhelm the listener
- Transparency - without a doubt this is THE most transparent setup I have ever listened to - ever! The M-Caps ZN warmth and lushness take a toll on transparency a very tiny bit (but still they are more transparent than BGs). These V-Caps makes them all sounded veiled! LOL!
Yes I love this MK-III sure enough. If they sounded this good with less than 12 hours in them, then I can only pray they gets refined with time. V-Caps are not cheap and the steep price is not for nothing.
It's V-Caps all the way for me now
PS:
From the look, I can tell that these V-Caps are handmade - now that's really coold eh.
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09-08-2007, 04:36 AM
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Haha. That is the goofiest looking thing ever. I'm sure the sound it great, but you need an enclosure of some sort. Seriously, it's cool, but ridiculous at the same time. Nice work.
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Now is there anyone who still thinks Im crazy? Don't answer that?
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