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Cryo stuff that gets abused.
Ortherwise, I am also in the camp of it does very little or nothing to the sound.
It DOES increase the durability/flexibility of the cable. I would use Cryo treatment on headphone cable and cables for portable rigs. I wouldn't do it to anything else because it does nothing to benefit that end.
It DOES for a fact result in more times that you can bend the wire without breaking - tried it!
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Someone is sending me some stuff to cryo.
Germania or anyone else from nwu can come and watch
to confirm i did in fact do it. KG80 in the tech building.
Date and time when i know when the stuff will be here.
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Yes... Bose!! 5th state of matter!
The problem is that not all metals become superconductors with cooling.
Superconductors become superconductors with cooling.
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And they superconduct only when at or VERY near absolute 0.
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Cryo stuff that gets abused.
Ortherwise, I am also in the camp of it does very little or nothing to the sound.
It DOES increase the durability/flexibility of the cable. I would use Cryo treatment on headphone cable and cables for portable rigs. I wouldn't do it to anything else because it does nothing to benefit that end.
It DOES for a fact result in more times that you can bend the wire without breaking - tried it!
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As a mech. engineer, i"ll back this engineer's statement - cryo will definitely make the metal more ductile. What other benefit is has, I don't know. However, just keep in mind the bottlenecks - connectors, jacks, PCB traces, leads on resistors, capacitors, etc. 'nuff said. 
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Cryogenic Treatment has been used on guitar strings and many different kinds of electrical wires. Quite a few people these days get their tubes treated cheaply and sell them on ebay.
I think this site may be able to help you with more info about cryo treatment.
Cryogenic Institute
Cryogenic Treatment Page - Cryogenic Institute
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I've had an ALO silver cable and a Jumbo Cryo a the same time before; no difference whatsoever. I concentrated and focused on the same song over and over until I looked constipated, but alas.
So IMHO only cryo cables if they're going to go out in public, where they'll be tougher and look cooler.
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Here is something that may relate to cryo changes in components/interconnects.
When metals are supercooled they go into the 5 state of matter - Bose Einstien condensate where the electrons are in lockstep and the material will superconduct.
So if a conductor is supercooled (cryo) and then slowly brought to room temperature is the new more relaxed state a degree closer to the superconducting state?
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That would require cooling to a much, much lower temperature and keeping it there. You can't get "closer" to a superconductive state in any working way. Something either superconducts or it doesn't.
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Someone is sending me some stuff to cryo.
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will be very interesting! 
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any more news on that yet? 
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All I can say is, if the urban legend turns out to be true, when Walt Disney is finally defrosted he's going to be absolutely stunning to listen to.
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It is the Gilmore corner!
BTW: Some of the stuff in that lab looks very "Section 5"
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All I can say is, if the urban legend turns out to be true, when Walt Disney is finally defrosted he's going to be absolutely stunning to listen to.
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LOL Kevin you are insane, you even drop CDs in there too!!!!!!
Can I get of these CD jewel cases cryo treated, just to see if they are less prone to break???
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I too am very keen to know if there was any sonic improvements, I have wondered as to the benefits of this process if any?
who sent you things for treatment??
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LOL Kevin you are insane, you even drop CDs in there too!!!!!!
Can I get of these CD jewel cases cryo treated, just to see if they are less prone to break??? |
Actually there were 3 x SACD's, and all came out fine. One of the
micro jewel cases had a crack in it, not sure whether or not it was
cracked beforehand. All the cables and connectors came out fine.
Turns out one of the 3 baggies i threw in there also did not like the
cold, and came out very brittle. Not sure why. It was a no-name brand
anyway.
I'm expecting the person who had me do the cryo to post here soon.
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