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10-02-2007, 03:56 PM
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1 million dollars for proof that expensive cables are better
Title says it all: A guy offers 1 million dollars for anyone who can prove that the "Pear Anjou" speaker cables do actually sound better than "Monster cables". I am really anxious about the outcome. But probably this will end in somewhat like: "Your proof sucks. You suck." or something similar. See the full article here.
PS: Maybe we should send Patrick^^
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A few months ago one of the Stereophile reviewers reported that when he tried to take the sceptic up on his offer there were so many conditions added to it as to be laughable. In the end the sceptic refused to go ahead with this test.
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A few months ago one of the Stereophile reviewers reported that when he tried to take the sceptic up on his offer there were so many conditions added to it as to be laughable. In the end the sceptic refused to go ahead with this test.
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Yeah, I read that too. It does make sense though, it's so much money they have to cover ever possible loophole and whatnot.
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pretty lame
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Yeah, I read that too. It does make sense though, it's so much money they have to cover ever possible loophole and whatnot.
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I say make a penalty. If you say you can tell the difference and can't, you have to pay him $500k.
Then donate all the prize money to a charity of the victor's choice. That would have been pretty sweet.
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10-22-2008, 08:14 AM
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Depends on what he mean with "better", and to who's ear/eyes it should be "better"
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Depends on what he mean with "better", and to who's ear/eyes it should be "better"
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Title says it all: A guy offers 1 million dollars for anyone who can prove that the "Pear Anjou" speaker cables do actually sound better than "Monster cables". I am really anxious about the outcome. But probably this will end in somewhat like: "Your proof sucks. You suck." or something similar. See the full article here.
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that ll be little unfair isnt it? :P ..patricks got a hypnotic voice..he mite put the guy in a hypnosis and convince him.
they guy will be too terrified & tranced to disagree.
btw...
i ve started noticing that there is a difference between Cheap $10 cables and $100 cables.
also difference between Copper and Silver core cables... the Vocals sound less grainy in most cases and Bass also refines a lot.
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The problem is even if you can prove there is a difference in the electrical waveforms caused by the cables (which is very doable and a project im working on now), it is near impossible to show that they will cause an audible difference in a quantitative way. My percolations on that subject brought about one idea, the headroom listening head and sealed audio chamber. Basically the constants would be amp, dac, pulse generator, grapher, the head, the headphones would have to be broken in thoroughly, plugs etc, and independant variable would be changing out the interconnect between amp and dac at a length of 3 meters using both the frequency response graph and also a sound spectrum analyzer (or something cool like that, maybe a super sensitive oscilloscope?) and see how they reproduce each wave with different interconnects. Thats just my .02
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Maybe we could use 100ft long cables? Then the differences would probably be enough to notice.
Maybe?
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Maybe we could use 100ft long cables? Then the differences would probably be enough to notice.
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You'd have to pay for those 100ft cables. I don't have that kind of money.
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But the million dollars would cover it.
Of course, you'd have to be 100% sure.
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10-23-2008, 07:40 PM
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But the million dollars would cover it.
Of course, you'd have to be 100% sure.
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True!
Someone, with some spare money, should take on the challenge.
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It was not an open ended contest for anyone to enter.
It was a specific prize offered to a few specific audiophile journalists
in regards to identifying two specific cables under test conditions.
Unsurprisingly the whole thing fell under it's own weight after details could not
be hammered out between the various parties involved.
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