Williamgoody

[Fish Tank X]

Update!

It seems that UPS delivered to the wrong address. So the bad is really on my side. I'd like to officially apologize to Bill and retract any statements I might have made about him that would cause others to be warry to do business with him. The fault is with UPS, not Bill.

Bill, you have my official apologies.

That being said, i'm also sorry for any poor communication that might've exagerated this situation. And i'm also sorry that it's taken me so long (nearly 10 days from first hearing from Bill that the package never arrived) to check with UPS, and i'm sorry It took me forever to get you your tracking number. I must've overlooked that in the PM, I know, i'm a total trade n00b. Throughout this whole deal Bill has been nothing but friendly.

P.S. As JPELWG said I would advise *anyone* ship USPS Priority mail, fully insured (usually for more, actually), and with Delivery Confirmation. The last feature costs only 45 cents(!) and gives me web tracking capability too. Cheapest insurance.

Again, a thousand apologies to all those involved. I don't know *what* the heck is happening, but in my opinion, the fault is not really with Bill. Rather, the insane mail system that is UPS.

[MacDEF]

MODERATOR ALERT:

This is a TRANSACTION FEEDBACK thread, NOT a discussion thread. If you want to discuss Head-Fi policy, this is not the place for it. This is also not the place to "call out" a member with whom you're unhappy.

All posts that weren't directly related to a particular transaction -- and multiple posts for the same transaction -- have been moved. (We're currently deciding what to do with them.) If you have a problem with this, this thread is not the place to discuss it.

Please post only a SINGLE message regarding a transaction. Explain SPECIFICALLY what happened for that transaction. If things change, or you have updated info, edit your post accordingly.

Posting over and over, or ranting on and on, makes the feedback forum worthless.

CLARIFICATION: This is NOT to keep negative feedback from appearing. As Jude has said, we want both positive and negative feedback, and encourage members to post honestly. However, we also want feedback threads to be fair to the seller, and useful to the other members, and having 20 posts that are discussion about forum policy, and 10 posts by the same person ranting about a single transaction make these threads worthless and take away from all the other messages in the thread.

Post all your comments and details in a single post. As I mentioned above, edit that post as necessary to reflect changes or new developments. Let's keep this forum useful.

Thank you.

[inthused]

Bill seems to have many ongoing problems in life that is effecting his honesty. Bill contacted me about trading for my amp.I wasn't interested in a trade,but since he wanted the amp,I shipped him my porta corda II on a payment plan.Even though our first deal wasn't a good one,I still believe in giving people a second chance.
I shipped the amp and for10 days Bill said he didn't recieve it. I checked the delivery confirmation and learned he recieved it with-in 3 days.When I notified Bill of this he still denied recieving it and said he will talk with the Post office the next day. Bill didn't get back to me the next day.
When I PM'd Bill stating I didn't appreciate his childish way of handling my concerns, he acted as if nothing was wrong and said he would send me a check when he gets paid.
I told Bill communication is very important to me and he needs to stay in touch considering the generous arrangement I made with him. Thats where things started to get ugly. From that point on,the PM's became rude.Bill acted as though his problems in life excused him from being honest.

BOTTOM LINE-

I caught Bill in a lie and he didn't like it. He said to be patient,that I will get my ********* money.
What choice did I have but to give him some time. What few PM's transpired after that were either more crying about his problems,or trying to make me out as the bad guy.
I would have been more sympathetic,but as I said,he lied ,so that set the tone until the deal is over.

I started a sale add to publicly notify other members about Bills thieving ways to see if others that have been ripped off would also come forth.
It worked,as other negative feedback is now posted. Thank-you to the members for acknowledging Bill is a rip-off artist.
In my experience with Bill,and what I have read in other posts,


----------------------------STAY CLEAR OF BILL.-------------------------
----------------------------- Spread the word.----------------------------


11/21/03 UPDATE,,,,,Since early September,there has been no communication from Bill,and of course no payments.

[Duncan]

Originally posted by inthused
Moderator-Since I am responsible for the uproar that brought Bills bad dealings to light,I would appreciate being notified where all the posts have been moved to. While one member has learned UPS made a mistake,others are still out there money or possesions. The original posts should not be hidden or destroyed.

No messages get 'destroyed' and the original contents of this thread are of no exception...

but to the best of my knowledge the posts that were removed were ones by people who were re-iterating problems experienced... as said by MacDEF above, only one post per person needs to be entered, and can easily be editied to reflect further problems / remedies.

Thanks

[MacDEF]

williamgoody had agreed to buy some items from me, but asked for me to hold them for a couple weeks. About three weeks later -- to be fair, because of this thread -- he pulled out of the deal.

I can't comment on the transaction itself, because, well, it never happened

[skagen]

Two pieces of feedback on WilliamGoody. The first transaction I originally didnt feel the need to write about, but after the second, I think there is a pattern here.

What what even more shocking to me was to click into this thread and find out all the other comments here. Only confirms my thoughts.


TRANSACTION #1: May 2003
I agreed to buy a pair of earphones from Bill aka WilliamGoody. I sent him a check same day. These checks take 2-5 days to arrive - I told him it would take no longer than that. The check was mailed from New York City area to upstate NY where he lives.

Bill said he would acknowledge receipt and let me know when he was mailing out my headphones.

Three weeks later, no message from Bill so far and no package in my mail box. I e-mail him, no reponse. E-mil him again and he then told me that he had JUST received my check that day. He said he would send out the phones ASAP. Hmmm. Okay, how very coincidental.

Interestingly enough another person who I mailed a check the same day, got his check 3 days later. Bill claims his took 3 weeks to arrive. You can imagine my skepticism, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I didn't comment on that transaction at the time, thinking it was an aberration.


TRANSACTION # 2: SEP/OCT 2003
WilliamGoody said he wanted to buy a microphone from me. He was the first of the 3 responses I got, so I said he was first in line.

First WilliamGoody said he would take cash to a branch of my bank and deposit it there. He took my account info. Couple days later he came back and said he didn't want to do that.

He now says he will mail me a check. I give him an address to mail it to. This normally takes 5 business days via airmail. He has all the instructions.

Three weeks later, no check had arrived, not any communication from WilliamGoody. I e-mailed him and a two sentence reply, the jist of which was 'It must be lost in the mail". Since then I haven't heard from him, nor have I seen the check.

Either WilliamGoody and the town of New Square has the most incometent postman of all time, or WilliamGoody himself is a joker and a waste of time.

I think you can figure out which one I believe to be the right answer. Needless to say I will not be entering into any further transactions with WilliamGoody - EVER.

[greenhorn]

Originally posted by skagen
Either WilliamGoody and the town of New Square has the most incometent postman of all time, or WilliamGoody himself is a joker and a waste of time.

New Square??? The address he gave me was "New City"!!!

... and he confirmed the reception of what I had sent him to that New City address - things went bad only afterwards (see previous page).

As for me, I'd only wish he was just a joker; in my case, and as far as the current situation shows it, he was a thief.

[NotoriousBIG_PJ]

Its been 2 months since I sent payment for Bills slim-x. I still have not recieved it.

[rawhit]

I am the guy Michael mentioned in his post.
Bought a Nomad Jukebox 3 from Williamgoody. I sent him money by paypal. But the player did not reach me for a month. I sent him PMs to which he replied that the item might have been lost during shipping.
I didn't post feedback about this here because William had lots of positive feebacks here so I assumed that problem was during shipping only. But after reading other negative comments here I am no longer sure.
Incidently I have seen atleast 3 more NJB3 for sale items from him since then.

[EDIT] just wanted to clarify that I never received the jukebox and finally had to buy another one.

Originally posted by MichaelFranks
I purchased a creative nomad jukebox from williamgoody (quite some time ago) and the transaction went extremely smoothly.

I am posting this experience because of concern expressed by other members. I was not affected in a negative way by the transaction, but, read on if you have time...

I had messaged williamgoody about the item after reading a for sale post he made, which was quite old, but hadn't been marked with a "sold" post yet. He said it was still available, so I paypal'ed and received it in a timely manner.

Once I found out the nomad wasn't compatible with my operating system, I immediately put it back up for sale in the forum. Oddly enough the first person to message me was williamgoody, asking if I wanted to trade something for else for it. No big deal, we audionuts are a fickle group, and william obviously has alot of equipment. I didn't think it was suspsicious until I talked to another member, whose experience was conveyed below.

I mentioned that to him that I really wanted to get cash for it, because there wasn't anything I was really looking for at the time. So a day or two goes by, and a head-fier from singapore (whose name I can't recall) pm's me wanting to buy the unit. I was weary of shipping it overseas, but told him that if he had someone in the states I could mail it to, that I would do that. Then he mentioned to me that he knew shipping overseas was risky, and that he had just bought an identical nomad jukebox from (guess who, williamgoody) and had been informed by him that it was "lost in the mail."

He was not bitter towards william, and assumed (partially due to immaculate feedback) that william was honest and had actually sent the unit.

I confronted williamgoody about the scenario (and informed an administrator that something fishy was going on) and william claimed that he had two units, and was not lying about having shipped the unit.

That is where the whole discussion ended, the moderator wasn't obligated to do anything, especially since the victim wasn't even pursuing the matter, being trustworthy enough to assume william had shipped it. William also told me that this was the last time he would ever ship something out of the US because of the hassle it had caused. II know he has been involved in overseas transactions since then, however.

An interesting story nonetheless, just added for completeness due to the rash of recent inquiries.

[Gopher]

This guy is a liar and a theif. He ripped me off on a Sony CE-775 and led me on to believe some sort of action was being taken--until he ceased communication.

Do yourself a favor, and avoid this ass-clown!

[jude]

It has just been verified that williamgoody has re-registered and posted under two additional profiles: Slimm and 4P4me.

Though we don't make a practice of discussing bans in the forums, I thought I should mention that all three of his profiles have now been banned. If you're involved in any deals with Slimm/williamgoody/4P4me, he will not be able to be contacted via these forums, as he can no longer access them.

If you wish to relay messages to him, please send me your messages via Head-Fi private messaging, and I will forward them to all of his registered e-mail addresses.

[Ken]

i did a swap for er4s and baby stax in 2001 , i sent the er4s to him and i never got the stax.
he never contacted me and i contacted him plenty.
bottom line I loose er4s and he keeps baby stax.
i notice looking back over his threads that after his deal with me he somehow sold some baby stax to someone else.
i alway knew that i had been ripped of .
soorry for not including dates ect
but they are all here in Headfi history

[afobisme]

imo, you should give us his address info, in case he has access to another computer at another location... we'd at least be able to identify his address (and if anyone wants to pay him er... respects?). i know this is not a discussion forum, but this is a serious issue imo. one bad lemon can cause chaos. im now sort of afraid to buy from someone who ahs no seller ratings or 0 posts.

[gsferrari]

You're a bit late to the party

Last post in this thread was made last year...

Originally Posted by afobisme

imo, you should give us his address info, in case he has access to another computer at another location... we'd at least be able to identify his address (and if anyone wants to pay him er... respects?). i know this is not a discussion forum, but this is a serious issue imo. one bad lemon can cause chaos. im now sort of afraid to buy from someone who ahs no seller ratings or 0 posts.

[inthused]

Originally Posted by inthused

Bill seems to have many ongoing problems in life that is effecting his honesty. Bill contacted me about trading for my amp.I wasn't interested in a trade,but since he wanted the amp,I shipped him my porta corda II on a payment plan.Even though our first deal wasn't a good one,I still believe in giving people a second chance.
I shipped the amp and for10 days Bill said he didn't recieve it. I checked the delivery confirmation and learned he recieved it with-in 3 days.When I notified Bill of this he still denied recieving it and said he will talk with the Post office the next day. Bill didn't get back to me the next day.
When I PM'd Bill stating I didn't appreciate his childish way of handling my concerns, he acted as if nothing was wrong and said he would send me a check when he gets paid.
I told Bill communication is very important to me and he needs to stay in touch considering the generous arrangement I made with him. Thats where things started to get ugly. From that point on,the PM's became rude.Bill acted as though his problems in life excused him from being honest.

BOTTOM LINE-

I caught Bill in a lie and he didn't like it. He said to be patient,that I will get my ********* money.
What choice did I have but to give him some time. What few PM's transpired after that were either more crying about his problems,or trying to make me out as the bad guy.
I would have been more sympathetic,but as I said,he lied ,so that set the tone until the deal is over.

I started a sale add to publicly notify other members about Bills thieving ways to see if others that have been ripped off would also come forth.
It worked,as other negative feedback is now posted. Thank-you to the members for acknowledging Bill is a rip-off artist.
In my experience with Bill,and what I have read in other posts,


----------------------------STAY CLEAR OF BILL.-------------------------
----------------------------- Spread the word.----------------------------


11/21/03 UPDATE,,,,,Since early September,there has been no communication from Bill,and of course no payments.

3-20-06 Life goes on.