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07-18-2008, 05:39 AM
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Thanks and what about the SRM-323 ?
BTW, does DLIII stands for DIYEDEN LILO III ?
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Well, for the price it is a good match for the 303 and Lambda Pro, but I would surmise that the 006, 007, KGSS, KGBH, GES, ES1 would do a better job. Once again, it is a good value.
DLIII is Digital Link III.
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07-18-2008, 05:55 AM
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Wow, so many comments about my recent mini-review on the Woo GES prototype and interconnects, not. 
Anyway, it looks like I'll be holding onto this GES for a while, and eventually rolling tubes. That last 10-15% the GES offers over the SRM-1 makes a bigger difference than one would think. It is getting harder and harder to move the HE60 back to the SRM-1 Mk2 Pro, where the bass fades a bit and the treble is tipped up more vs the GES. The GES just sounds more balanced with the HE60 (and everything else), although I still enjoy the SR-Lambda Pro and SR-003 with the SRM-1.
So, can ANYONE suggest some good tubes that can be found at reasonable prices, for a future GES tube rolling review when I have the money? (I had to sell my Headphile HF-1, Headstage Lyrix, q-JAYS and Super.fi 5 Pro to get some of the money to get the GES - may have to sell more stuff for tubes later).
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07-18-2008, 05:57 AM
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Is break-in an issue w/ Stax cans or is it typically limited to dynamics? IF it is an issue, to what extent? I have 150+ hrs on SR-303/SRM-323II rig and I think SQ has been fairly consistent out of the box, however, I was listening to a little John Lee Hooker earlier this evening (the AcousTech Fantasy 45 "That's My Story" disk) and I swear to Buddha for several minutes there I was right in the studio with The Hook - I could practically see the spit hit the mic. So I thought I'd ask.
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I've seen some report anything up to 175 hours but whether that was amp or headphone or both is questionable because others have reported the headphones/earspeakers themselves needing very little 'settling' time (approx 20 hours).
Regardless, it appears you are now getting that transparent 'realism' we all love in electrostats - go and enjoy it 
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07-18-2008, 06:06 AM
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Boy I just received my 007 Mk2 with matching tube amp....
WOW...thats all I can say right now!!
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07-18-2008, 06:10 AM
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So, can ANYONE suggest some good tubes that can be found at reasonable prices, for a future GES tube rolling review when I have the money? (I had to sell my Headphile HF-1, Headstage Lyrix, q-JAYS and Super.fi 5 Pro to get some of the money to get the GES - may have to sell more stuff for tubes later).
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There have been suggestions before but the two I've tried are: - TungSol 12AX7 ECC803S - they significantly improve on the sound of the standard Electro-Harmonix and I would have spent more time with them if I hadn't secured...
- A set of matched NOS RCA 12BZ7s - no contest. These are IT for me (at least ATM). They make the GES sing with my HE60s, and I'll make time to try them with a variety of other electrostats as time permits.
From this limited experience I suggest aiming towards NOS (Yes, I know prices become an issue) and the alternatives to the standard 12AX7.
Good luck with your search.
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07-18-2008, 06:43 AM
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Look at it this way...pretty much any anything is better than the EH 12ax7s.
The new production JJs would even be an improvement on the cheap.
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07-18-2008, 07:10 AM
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Boy I just received my 007 Mk2 with matching tube amp....
WOW...thats all I can say right now!!
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I am so sorry I did this to you by hooking you up with your first electrostatic rig. Now you've moved on to the hard stuff. Can you ever forgive me? 
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07-18-2008, 07:20 AM
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There have been suggestions before but the two I've tried are: - TungSol 12AX7 ECC803S - they significantly improve on the sound of the standard Electro-Harmonix and I would have spent more time with them if I hadn't secured...
- A set of matched NOS RCA 12BZ7s - no contest. These are IT for me (at least ATM). They make the GES sing with my HE60s, and I'll make time to try them with a variety of other electrostats as time permits.
From this limited experience I suggest aiming towards NOS (Yes, I know prices become an issue) and the alternatives to the standard 12AX7.
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What about the "1 matched quad Ratheon 12BZ7 $64 (4 pcs)" from Jack's website? Are those the good ones you speak of? It does have the EH 12AX7 in it now.
And, what about the stock 6S4 tubes (web site says 6S7)? What would you replace them with, if anything? Mine has Sylvanias 6S4A in it right now.
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07-18-2008, 11:36 AM
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Boy I just received my 007 Mk2 with matching tube amp....
WOW...thats all I can say right now!!
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Congrats! Enjoy your new musical experience.
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Boy I just received my 007 Mk2 with matching tube amp....
WOW...thats all I can say right now!!
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Congratulations!
Its a really nice system indeed.
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07-18-2008, 06:09 PM
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Wow, so many comments about my recent mini-review on the Woo GES prototype and interconnects, not.
Anyway, it looks like I'll be holding onto this GES for a while, and eventually rolling tubes. That last 10-15% the GES offers over the SRM-1 makes a bigger difference than one would think. It is getting harder and harder to move the HE60 back to the SRM-1 Mk2 Pro, where the bass fades a bit and the treble is tipped up more vs the GES. The GES just sounds more balanced with the HE60 (and everything else), although I still enjoy the SR-Lambda Pro and SR-003 with the SRM-1.
So, can ANYONE suggest some good tubes that can be found at reasonable prices, for a future GES tube rolling review when I have the money? (I had to sell my Headphile HF-1, Headstage Lyrix, q-JAYS and Super.fi 5 Pro to get some of the money to get the GES - may have to sell more stuff for tubes later). |
I am using NOS Sylvania 12ax7WA's, They are very detailed and open. Eventually I want to try some Telefunken's but the Sylvania's are very good.
They were $40 each.
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07-18-2008, 06:29 PM
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Wow, so many comments about my recent mini-review on the Woo GES prototype and interconnects, not. |
Does your prototype GES use the standard Solen coupling caps or does it have the upgraded Auricaps (or something else)? Just curious since the Solens seem to get such a bad rap. It would be good to know that they could sound good in the proper application.
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07-18-2008, 08:22 PM
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I received my new OII MKII earlier today, yay! Looking forward to next weekend where I'll get to try it with the Singlepower ES-1.  I'd post a pic except I forgot my camera and laptop PC, will post one later.
Now the anxious waiting begins for my HeadAmp Blue Hawaii SE....
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The SRM 717....has landed....softly  I also got a 120v to 100v transformer as I knew I didn't want to wait for a time to set up the jumpers...I wanted to use this right away. Just from my initial listening with the SR 303...OMG! The A series srm1/mk2pro that I have are going into a box...
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