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Old 01-08-2008, 05:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Revelation Audio Lab (RAL) ... are they crooks?

Revelation Audio Lab (RAL) sells all kinds of cables on Audiogon. I ordered a pair of cable for HD6x0 back in 9/25/2007 but never got it. Several emails to Brad Vorjtech, the point person of RAL and I'm told to wait. Then since last month, Dec. 2007, they stop replying emails and completely disappeared!!!!

I went back to Audiogon to check their userid "Vtech2000", Viola, it shows "No longer a registered user. This account was either cancelled by the owner, or suspended by Audiogon." Mostly likely they have been suspended because of their shaddy business practice.

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I'm really surprised to hear this. I have bought 3 cables from them and they were all shipped to me within a week of my order. He also replaced one that developed a short after a couple of months at no charge, and quite promptly. I wonder what happened.
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Originally Posted by ast View Post
Revelation Audio Lab (RAL) sells all kinds of cables on Audiogon. I ordered a pair of cable for HD6x0 back in 9/25/2007 but never got it. Several emails to Brad Vorjtech, the point person of RAL and I'm told to wait. Then since last month, Dec. 2007, they stop replying emails and completely disappeared!!!!

I went back to Audiogon to check their userid "Vtech2000", Viola, it shows "No longer a registered user. This account was either cancelled by the owner, or suspended by Audiogon." Mostly likely they have been suspended because of their shaddy business practice.

A lesson learned.
Sorry, man, but yes RAL was a crook.

Cable Asylum - Hooray: Revelation Audio Labs banned from Audiogon! - nostatic - January 06, 2008 at 04:10:07
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Old 01-08-2008, 06:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Alas! Last time when I checked his feedback on Audiogon, he got over 2000 positives and only 2 'neutral' !!! Kinda fishy: could those negative feedbacks got deleted somehow?


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Ok, now RAL's phone #, (386) 586-3653 , has been disconnected !!!

I guess the crook has vanished completely, and he planned this before hand !!!


Now about their cables ...




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There are quite a few crooks on Audiogon.... Watch your back...

Audiogon feedback system is very misleading. You need a PHD in mathematics to understand their stats.
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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After dozens and dozens of complaints, Audiogon FINALLY banned Brad Vojtech, owner of Revelation Audio Labs. Clearly, they resisted as long as possible because they were more interested in his advertising dollars than protecting members.

This scammer has stolen my money as well as many others as you can see by doing a search of the posts on Audiogon and Audio Asylum. In my case, he's probably committed mail fraud, because he used a bogus USPS shipping notice to deter PayPal's investigation into the status of my shipment.

If you want to contact him, go to his website and you'll find his P.O. Box in Palm Coast, Florida. (There's a tip-off that the guy is a crook: he doesn't use a street address.) Also, you might want to put a post on Audiogon inquiring about his physical address because a couple of members live near him. In any case, contact your credit card company and the Attorney General's office of Florida; they'll go after him.

Correction: He had a PF score of about 400, not 2,000. The reason he didn't have more negative feedback was because Audiogon's feedback system is seriously flawed. A member can reject negative feedback or counter it by threatening to leave the same about the submitting member...even if the reply is a lie. This guy is so unscrupulous I'm sure he worked the system for years.

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Old 01-08-2008, 10:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I got burned, too. Paid my money, never heard, sent emails, got a few responses, then nothing.

Shouldn't this thread be in the cable forum? I wouldn't mind seeing it become a sticky, just in case Brad ever resurfaces.

This is all especially unfortunate since it seems that the cables he did make were good.
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Shouldn't this thread be in the cable forum? I wouldn't mind seeing it become a sticky, just in case Brad ever resurfaces.
x2 on that. I am sure a lot of ppl can benefit from information from this thread. I think getting banned from Audiogon and for the reasons mentioned by output555, ppl should be careful or take action if they have already sent money to this character.
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