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BushGuy · 09-06-2008, 01:48 PM

Is this immtbiker post worthy of someone who has the responsibility of a "moderator" ? A measure of maturity needs to be applied.

immtbiker · 09-06-2008, 04:01 PM

Wow...7 years of loyal dedication to the cause, torn down down by one light hearted statement.
Obviously you haven't read my sticky warning members to steer clear of Xin's products until he resolves this matter.

**Buyer Beware!! Please read before buying a Dr. Xin Feng Amp**

If you think that statement makes me unworthy of Moderator status, you should read some of my other works.

Lighten up dude and look at the big picture. I have done more for Head-Fi than the average bear.

If anyone else feels that this is a worthy comment, please chime in or PM me. I am open to constructive criticism.

tomjtx · 09-06-2008, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by immtbiker

Wow...7 years of loyal dedication to the cause, torn down down by one light hearted statement.
Obviously you haven't read my sticky warning members to steer clear of Xin's products until he resolves this matter.

**Buyer Beware!! Please read before buying a Dr. Xin Feng Amp**

If you think that statement makes me unworthy of Moderator status, you should read some of my other works.

Lighten up dude and look at the big picture. I have done more for Head-Fi than the average bear.

If anyone else feels that this is a worthy comment, please chime in. I am open to constructive criticism.

I think your comment is entirely appropriate and humorous as well.

Take into consideration that the criticism comes from someone who has bush in their moniker. This would imply extremely bad judgement on his part :-)

immtbiker · 09-06-2008, 04:29 PM

Thank you, kind sir. You have now been moved to my "A" list

itsborken · 09-06-2008, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by tomjtx

I think your comment is entirely appropriate and humorous as well.

Take into consideration that the criticism comes from someone who has bush in their moniker. This would imply extremely bad judgement on his part :-)

x2. I put BG on my ignore list as he's just another internet bully not worth the time paying attention to.

BIG POPPA · 09-06-2008, 05:39 PM

I didn't see the harm OMG..... Considering the chain of events, some things become fair game. Someone sounds like a "stick in the mud" immtbiker, no harm ,no foul in my eyes.

nc8000 · 09-06-2008, 06:49 PM

No I don't see any harm what so ever in that comment. I was for many years a strong supporter of Xin and have had at least 5 Xin amps over the years but can't in good faith recommend dealing with him any longer

DDW · 09-07-2008, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by mrarroyo

DDW, .......... you are way out of line by your implications.

Maybe so, but I don't think so based on what I was really trying to say. AGAIN, nothing personal. I don't have anything against you. And from your replies, it sounds like you actually may have had a little bit of understanding as to what I was saying.........:

Your exact words are most of my point:

1)

Originally Posted by mrarroyo

As stated perhaps he sends his units to what to him are experienced "Beta Testers". BTW, this is no different from what other sellers do w/ their products, even outside of the headphone business.

2)

Originally Posted by mrarroyo

Perhaps what you call "favorite" is instead trust that Dr. Xin has of long time users of his units and of individuals who not only own his amps but many other amps.

You basically stated my reasons for pointing out "why" I don't feel I should see any relevance in the fact that you have a Xin amp being shipped to you specifically. Nothing personal. I just feel ("Possibly") that since you have tested so many amps, since you have been a long time user and since you post your reviews including very favorable reviews of Xin's products, that Xin (as a common bussiness move) would likely prioritize shipping to you and a couple of others. Yes, I agree this is a common business practice. But, as even you concured, yes, it is also "likely" a type of favortism. I understand why. And I don't really have any problem with it even from Xin. And I definitely don't have any problems with you about it.
I view your efforts as helpful to Xin and the buying forum members interested in buying a Xin amp.

I placed my order (over a year ago) largely based on the VERY positive reviews by you Jamato, hiflight and others. But, I do NOT hold you guys responsible in any way for the rediculous issues in shipping of product. That burden is clearly Xin's in my book. I see the frustrations you guys are having to deal with having made so many positive remarks and then have to watch as so many get frustrated with NOT receiving amps. I would feel bad too. Personally, under the circumstances, If I had been in your shoes, I would likely be very reluctant to even mention I had a Xin amp being shipped to me without seeing a reasonable number of others receiving amps. But, I don't blame you or have issue with you sharing the reality either.

**** In any event, know that you don't owe me any appologies. And know I don't hold any ill will towards you Jamato or Hiflight or anyone else who has made postive review of Xin's products or who might receive their amps before me.

There is only ONE SINGLE person I hold responsible for this rediculous process.

But, my MAIN point (in my earlier comment) was that there is just no reason to get excited about "Xin being in shipping mode" just because someone (like yourself) who might be "favored" by Xin for whatever Xin's reasons are receiving notice that you have an amp being shipped.
In my book, you are (likely / possibly) an exception to any indication that any "Normal" shippings will take place. I have to assume that Xin shipping you an amp is a "Special" effort.

***** There are simply NO other indications of shipping. One single shipping notice (regardless of who or why) isn't enough to get excited about.

Further, based on your status to Xin, I have to disregard a shipping of an amp to you.... That is all I was trying to say.

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DDW · 09-07-2008, 06:46 PM

immtbiker,

I don't have any problems with your comments.

YES... they were a "dig" at a maker of products. But, under the circumstances, I think it is hard not to make a joke/dig about the situation.

As a moderator, I think you have fullfilled your responsibility by "WARNING" others about what they might have to endure or deal with and the risks they might be taking by ordering through Xin.

Likeable or not as a person, Xin's "Business Practices", communication and shipping time frames are NOT up to par - Not even close!

Honestly though, as a moderator, I think you might have noticed the questionable nature of a few of Bushguy's posts prior to now - escpecially the ones related in reply to Xin posts. Attacks on certain individuals or against certain posts seem familiar.

jamato8 · 09-07-2008, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by immtbiker

Wow...7 years of loyal dedication to the cause, torn down down by one light hearted statement.
Obviously you haven't read my sticky warning members to steer clear of Xin's products until he resolves this matter.

**Buyer Beware!! Please read before buying a Dr. Xin Feng Amp**

If you think that statement makes me unworthy of Moderator status, you should read some of my other works.

Lighten up dude and look at the big picture. I have done more for Head-Fi than the average bear.

If anyone else feels that this is a worthy comment, please chime in or PM me. I am open to constructive criticism.

I wish I knew what was going on. Xin is a friend but on the other side of this is the pure frustration that is totally understood. I have made some of what I thought were humorous comments and gotten slapped back for them though I didn't take that serious either. Well the job of a moderator is never easy, so many personalities. Kind of like working in the hospital. :^)