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| Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors Discussion of portable headphones, earphones and in-ear monitors (IEMs). |
04-02-2009, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ChroniCali
The PK3s detail does NOT suck, but I just felt like there was always a veil over the treble. The detail is there, but in NO WAY are they close to being as detailed as the PK1 and PK2, not even close. The bass is awesome, nice and punchy and extends pretty well. The presence is very good yet not boomy at the same time. For your friend's musical inclinations, PK3 would be the OBVIOUS choice between PK2 and PK3. If they are listening to a lot of hiphop/rap and alternative, PK2 will NOT sound good at all with that recessed low end. Of course, all of this is IMO. The PK2's bass is just not present enough, so PK3 would be the worthy choice. Plus they are only $39, buy them now! I have had the PK2s, PK3s, and now I have the PK1s, so I have experience with all of them.
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Not trying to get into an argument, just another perspective. I've got the PK2 and PK3 and when I went back and forth with them I found the differences to be surprisingly subtle. The mid and treble detail is a bit better in the PK2. After hearing about the difference in bass response I was listening closely for it and could not tell the difference between the two. I would say that for anyone who does not call him or herself an audiophile, there is no significant difference between the two. I would consider the PK2 to be a small step up in quality for most types of music.
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04-02-2009, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RickB
If you're in the US, Radio Shack sells replacement foam covers in their stores and also online.
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Thanks. If you have a model number that you have tried and recommend, please share it.
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04-02-2009, 03:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott549
Not trying to get into an argument, just another perspective. I've got the PK2 and PK3 and when I went back and forth with them I found the differences to be surprisingly subtle. The mid and treble detail is a bit better in the PK2. After hearing about the difference in bass response I was listening closely for it and could not tell the difference between the two. I would say that for anyone who does not call him or herself an audiophile, there is no significant difference between the two. I would consider the PK2 to be a small step up in quality for most types of music.
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Agreed, from having tried PK3's for an extended period of time and currently owning the PK2's.
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Fullsize cans: Sennheiser HD650, AKG K701, Shure SRH840, Audio Technica AD700, Denon AH-D1001, Sennheiser HD238, Audio Technica SQ5
IEM's/Portables: Shure SE530 (custom tipped), Phonak Audeo PFE, UE SF5 EB, Yuin PK2, Sony EX082, JVC Marshmallow, Koss KSC75
Amps/DAC's: A&R Cambridge C200 Vintage (pre)amp, Head-Direct EF-1, Headamp Pico DAC-Only, Hotaudio DAC Straight, Fiio E3
Sources: Asus Eee PC 1000 HE/Foobar, iPhone 3G 16GB, Sony S639F
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04-03-2009, 06:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatmann
Thanks. If you have a model number that you have tried and recommend, please share it.
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The model no. on the last package I bought was #33-376.
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Sources: PC/iPod Classic 120GB/Sony S616F/Sansa Clip 8GB/Cowon D2+
DAC/Amps: HOTUSB1/D3 Python/Penguin Caffeine Ultra/Minibox-E+
Phones: Grado SR225, Yuin OK1, PK1, G1A & G2A (w/ headband mod), Koss KSC75, KSC35, Etymotic ER4P/S
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04-03-2009, 01:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott549
Not trying to get into an argument, just another perspective. I've got the PK2 and PK3 and when I went back and forth with them I found the differences to be surprisingly subtle. The mid and treble detail is a bit better in the PK2. After hearing about the difference in bass response I was listening closely for it and could not tell the difference between the two. I would say that for anyone who does not call him or herself an audiophile, there is no significant difference between the two. I would consider the PK2 to be a small step up in quality for most types of music.
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I have to agree as well. I've owned all three PKs, and sold the PK1 (wasn't using them much because of amping necessity), and the PK2, mainly for the reason that I felt the PK3s were a better value (and I got the PK2 for $50 when they first came out via group buy. The PK3s were $25 then as well). Anyway, the more I compared, the less difference there seemed to be, though the PK3 did deliver somewhat more bass, as noted). I just feel the PK3s are a great value, and not all that far from the other two PKs.
In fact, I had recently sold my PK3s, but after selling off my IE8s and Turbines as well, I rebought the PK3s because I just need to have a pair around.
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On-ear: Grado SR-80, Ksc75 (Kramered with PX200 pads), Ksc 35 (with cheap headband mod).
DAPs: Amp3, Zune80, Sony A818 (8GB), Sansa Clip+ (8GB)/Clip v2 (1GB).
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04-04-2009, 11:31 PM
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Bummed out, I think I lost my PK2's when I was out and about this week. Hopefully they will turn up, if not, I may have to go with the PK3 to save some cash. Anyone know how they compare?
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04-04-2009, 11:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slick1ru2
Bummed out, I think I lost my PK2's when I was out and about this week. Hopefully they will turn up, if not, I may have to go with the PK3 to save some cash. Anyone know how they compare?
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Pretty similar. You'll be sacrificing bit of clarity and mids in exchange for bit better bass and warmer presentation.
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Fullsize cans: Sennheiser HD650, AKG K701, Shure SRH840, Audio Technica AD700, Denon AH-D1001, Sennheiser HD238, Audio Technica SQ5
IEM's/Portables: Shure SE530 (custom tipped), Phonak Audeo PFE, UE SF5 EB, Yuin PK2, Sony EX082, JVC Marshmallow, Koss KSC75
Amps/DAC's: A&R Cambridge C200 Vintage (pre)amp, Head-Direct EF-1, Headamp Pico DAC-Only, Hotaudio DAC Straight, Fiio E3
Sources: Asus Eee PC 1000 HE/Foobar, iPhone 3G 16GB, Sony S639F
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04-04-2009, 11:34 PM
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I'm returning my PK1's because I don't hear enough of an improvement to justify the $120 difference vs the PK3.
PK3's are seriously an UNBEATABLE value.
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04-04-2009, 11:37 PM
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Thanks guys, sounds like the PK3 will do just fine then. Going to go and check the van good again before I order.
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Amp Little Dot Micro+ FiiO E3
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Equipment Toshiba Satellite X205-S9349, 30 GB iPod photo (4 Gen), 120 GB iPod Classic (7 Gen)
My Music Last FM
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04-05-2009, 07:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickB
The model no. on the last package I bought was #33-376.
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Many thanks for the information!
Too bad Radio Shack only sells a pair of black foam cover replacements if you also buy a pair of the same in blue!
Yuck!
Whoever thought up this marketing scheme at RS should get spanked.
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Klipsch X5, Ety 6i, Yuin PK2, Koss KSC-35
iPods -- Classic 160 and 4G photo 60 gig
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Thinkpad; Headroom Ultra Desktop Amp and Desktop Power Supply; Audioengine A2 speakers; Senn 600; Sangean WR-3 AM/FM-CDP
Home
Senn 650 (w Cardas cable); Headroom Max (w latest Max electronics); Bryston BP 25; Odyssey Stratos; Arcam FMJ 23; Vandersteen 3A; Hafler DH330 modded by John Hillig of Musical Design
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04-06-2009, 08:19 AM
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Whew, found my PK2s!
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HP Sennheiser PX100,Audio Technica ATH-A700,Grado SR 80,Yuin PK2,Ultrasone HFI-780
Amp Little Dot Micro+ FiiO E3
Sound Card TURTLE BEACH Audio Advantage Micro
Equipment Toshiba Satellite X205-S9349, 30 GB iPod photo (4 Gen), 120 GB iPod Classic (7 Gen)
My Music Last FM
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04-22-2009, 09:15 PM
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Are the cables on the newer PK2s the same as the PK3s? I had some older PK2s and the cable nearest the bud became very stiff over time.
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04-22-2009, 09:23 PM
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I've enjoyed my PK2's quite a bit, and actually listen to them more than any of my other stuff due to them being my work 'phones. But now that I DO have an amp (I didn't at the time of the PK2 purchase), should I move onto the PK1? Without having to read through this monstrous thread, I'd appreciate either quick or long responses on whether it would be worth it. 
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Fullsize cans: Sennheiser HD650, AKG K701, Shure SRH840, Audio Technica AD700, Denon AH-D1001, Sennheiser HD238, Audio Technica SQ5
IEM's/Portables: Shure SE530 (custom tipped), Phonak Audeo PFE, UE SF5 EB, Yuin PK2, Sony EX082, JVC Marshmallow, Koss KSC75
Amps/DAC's: A&R Cambridge C200 Vintage (pre)amp, Head-Direct EF-1, Headamp Pico DAC-Only, Hotaudio DAC Straight, Fiio E3
Sources: Asus Eee PC 1000 HE/Foobar, iPhone 3G 16GB, Sony S639F
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04-23-2009, 01:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K_19
I've enjoyed my PK2's quite a bit, and actually listen to them more than any of my other stuff due to them being my work 'phones. But now that I DO have an amp (I didn't at the time of the PK2 purchase), should I move onto the PK1? Without having to read through this monstrous thread, I'd appreciate either quick or long responses on whether it would be worth it. |
Yes, the PK1 is a significant upgrade. Highs, mids and bass are all better compared to the PK2. Soundstage is improved since they're amped, too.
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Phones: Grado SR225, Yuin OK1, PK1, G1A & G2A (w/ headband mod), Koss KSC75, KSC35, Etymotic ER4P/S
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06-03-2009, 01:59 AM
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I don't have the PK2s or the PK3s to compare to but my PK1s just arrived and they are fantastic out of the box. Can't wait for them to burn in. I tried them amped (via the headphone out of a Cambridge Audio 540A) and unamped and they're suprisingly good unamped with a bit more separation when amped. Would never have heard of these earphones were it not for head fi so thanks guys!
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