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I think I need to update my impressions after using them for a few days with a nano. The treble can begin to sound a bit splashy and overbearing after I use them for several consecutive hours. The soundstage compression and lack of instrument separation is a negative for me and can even be a bit disorienting at times. I loved the separation of individual instruments with the SE530 (that soozieq discussed) and these do not have that at all. These faults only appear with certain types of music, though, and I'm sure many people would not find the same thing.
That's with an iPod nano 2g headphone out. I hauled out my pimeta and tried amping the thing - there's is a large improvement in all areas of sound and presentation. The C700s are power hungry little things... and I guess that makes DAP pairing critical for these headphones. I've been through this before with akg K271s and know what amping can do for some headphones, but I've never been a big advocate of portable amping since the improvement is usually not worth the extra nuisance. The C700s are an exception to this rule. So I picked up an iBasso T2 off another head-fier today and this seems like a very good solution for sound and portability (I'd rather not buy yet another DAP), but I have limited experience with it so far and can't comment on specifics. I also do not yet have a LOD so I just use the headphone out for now.
So...there's hope that the fatigue can be beat and I can keep them. But regardless of the amping improvement, my opinion of the C700s have been tempered a bit since my initial impressions. I am still not a huge treble fan, although these do treble very well. They have a sound and presentation that I can't 'escape' when I'm wearing them: its bright and sparkly with tons of bass and right inside my head at the forefront of my attention - and I realize that I'm not always in the mood for that.
These really need a couple hundred hours of burn-in in my experience. It wasn't till I hit that mark that I was ready to sell my SE310 and E4c in September, about 3 months after I bought the C700.
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From what i experienced, the sony medium tips compared to C700 medium tips is a little bit smaller. Right now, i'm using the sony medium tips (the only thing that i like from my EX61 :P) for my C700.
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From what i experienced, the sony medium tips compared to C700 medium tips is a little bit smaller. Right now, i'm using the sony medium tips (the only thing that i like from my EX61 :P) for my C700.
Yes, they're a tiny bit shorter too, which seems to work in their favour. They definitely sound better (to my ears) with the Sony tips. They sound fine with the Denon tips but the Sony's seems to add a little more bass and soundstage.
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Only the sony genuine EX series tips seem to improve on the Denon tips. Nothing else I've tried does so.. in fact all others degrade the sound, at least to my ears. I am with soozieq, the Sony EX tips actually do improve the sound noticeably. In addition to bass & soundstage, I hear clearer treble too. They also stay in your ear better. All around a big upgrade.
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I also agree that the Sony tips improved the sound and I can listen to the C700s with the Sony tips a little longer, but even the Sony tips still hurt my ears after 2-1/2 hours into a 4-1/2 hour flight to Seattle. I had the medium tips on my C700s and unfortunately I did not have the small tips with me to try swapping them out for more comfort. I had to switch over to my Shure E2Gs with the foamies for the rest of the flight. I was able to use the E2Gs for the entire 4-1/2 hour return flight two days later, so I guess Ill have to sacrifice SQ for comfort on flights longer than 2 hours.
Has anyone tried to have custom ear molds made for the C700s? I know I can get them for my E2Gs and the other Shure headphones, but the Denon has a different post and it's not as long as the Shure's, so I don't want to just order a set for my Shure's and try to make them work on the Denon's.
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