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| Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors Discussion of portable headphones, earphones and in-ear monitors (IEMs). |
06-01-2009, 11:19 AM
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so you didnt have your UM56 there with you?? that might have given a bit more reliable idea of how they sound. you are as close to a hope at the moment to someone who has ES3X and JH13. these 2 are still fighting it off for my dollars. I still have the ES3X in the lead at the moment though as i'm just not convinced of the need for 6 drivers. hell I couldnt even see the need for the 4 drivers of UE11 before this, so 6 leaves me more confused than impressed. at least at this stage
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There is no way they could fit on the JH demos or UE demos - the sound nozzle was all wrong for the UM56.
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Larry Head-Fi Feedback
Oct 09 Colorado CanJam @ RMAF Impressions
SEE PUBLIC PROFILE "ABOUT ME" FOR LINKS TO REVIEWS AND MY GEAR.
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06-01-2009, 11:27 AM
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bummer....
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Mac G5 Dual 2Ghz with 2TB internal Raid, 2 x DIYMOD 5.5G, iRiver iHP132CF
The Sources
RME Fireface 400, DIYMOD 5.5G 120GB HD, iRiver iHP132CF, iBasso D10
Amps
TRIAD AUDIO Lisa III Standard, iBasso D10, Larocco Diablo
Cans
JH13 with prototype 26AWG cryoparts SCSCAg cable
UM3X w/UM56•SE530 with 'Vortex' cable
DIY LA2000 tassie b/wood
Twisted Cables cryoparts HD600 (Bocchino BAXLR connects)
Interconnects and tweaks (all DIY)
various Jena, cryo silver, cryoparts TWcu, SCSCAg, Duelund and piccolino cables,
Sys-Concept optical cables, Duelund copper VSF dock with Mundorf SIO bypass
Nearly finished TP Buffalo Sabre32
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KRK V6 active studio monitors with KRK RP10S powered sub
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06-01-2009, 11:49 AM
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Hi, great impressions. Abit disappointed that the jh13 might not live up to its hype. Any comments on the soundstage and imaging compared to the es3x?
Thanks alot 
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06-01-2009, 03:53 PM
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Quote:
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Hi, great impressions. Abit disappointed that the jh13 might not live up to its hype. Any comments on the soundstage and imaging compared to the es3x?
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I would not be so quick to judge. A universal can, at best, give you an approximation of how the custom can sound. You still have to spring for the actual customs to hear how they actually sound 
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06-01-2009, 04:01 PM
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Does anyone know whethe the JH customs are also customizable with a personal artwork or colors?
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06-01-2009, 04:28 PM
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Yup asked for it myself.
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06-01-2009, 11:35 PM
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Yup asked for it myself.
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bro haha you should state you ordered a personal colour like me haha. artwork I am not sure though, fellow audiophiles.
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06-02-2009, 01:38 PM
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really looking forward for UE4pro review, hopefully as well as JH5pro. hunger to get a entry level custom...
PS: i am just a casual listener.
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06-02-2009, 01:53 PM
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Would be great if someone gets the jh13 real soon and post up their impressions. 
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06-03-2009, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict
I also heard the same things as you with the JH IEM, and thought the 10x3 were better balanced overall of his offerings. In mentioning the 11 and 13 as being too bright, JH said that the universal fit demo units do have a 3-4db peak around 6K or so, and that he is working on a demo universal fit that doesn't have that sound issue. He stressed that the custom fit version would NOT sound as much like the demo in that frequency region.
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That's funny. While I preferred the JH10x3s, it was because they sounded more lively and a bit brighter to me. The JH11/13s sounded a bit more neutral and flat. Even Jerry seemed surprised by my take on the phones, but I listened to them 2-3 times each and each time that's how they sounded to me. Might have been my Zune.
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06-03-2009, 01:30 AM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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That's funny. While I preferred the JH10x3s, it was because they sounded more lively and a bit brighter to me. The JH11/13s sounded a bit more neutral and flat. Even Jerry seemed surprised by my take on the phones, but I listened to them 2-3 times each and each time that's how they sounded to me. Might have been my Zune.
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That just reinforces what I have been saying - that the demo/universal version of a custom fit IEM may not be representative of how it will sound as a finished custom fit product. And that the shape and size of our ear canals, and the position of the tip in our ears, and the tip itself will affect the sound in ways that are not always predictable.
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...honestly, it's like comparing ugly Betty with Scarlett Johjansson, you do not know where to start because you cannot take your eyes off Scarlett...
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Larry Head-Fi Feedback
Oct 09 Colorado CanJam @ RMAF Impressions
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06-03-2009, 01:32 AM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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exactly we will just have to be patient until the reviews start coming in 
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06-03-2009, 01:53 AM
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I don't hype. I know a lot of people like to think that those of us who are excited about a product are doing so to hype it or to add to the hype. But I don't hype. I've got all sorts of headphones and have never gone on and on about any one of them, or at least not to the exclusion of others that I like.
So I won't hype now, even though I want to. I want to because the JH13, in my mind--based on my considerable headphone and IEM listening experiences, is one of the best products I've ever encountered--even as compared to the usual suspect high end full size headphones--and is clearly among the very best in the IEM world--probably the best, and certainly better than the UE 10 Pro which I compared them to directly and are an excellent product in their own right, but "Sorry, Senator, I know the JA13, and you Sir (UE 10 Pro) are no JA13"... and I want to hype because Jerry is a great guy in many ways, not the least of which is as a strong family man and successful small business owner who deserves our support and encouragement... but I won't hype.
I'll just say that I've listened to the JA13 and had a great conversation with an impressive gentleman who has done me a huge favor by kindly extracting another $1k out of my pocket to help support my headphone/IEM junkie habit. To call him a pusher would be completely unfair as it would understate his roll in all of this. He's a world class chemist who has developed an intriguing new way of adding more potency to my drug of choice. (Music, of course. Don't you read immtbiker's signature?)
It would be wrong to hype. I'd never do that... but I have left a set of ear impressions with Jerry (thanks to Head-Fi's good friend Uncle Wilson for that!) and am now in the process of evaluating various color and artwork options, and will be placing my order soon.. very soon! I'm thinking the Kansas Jayhawks logo would do the trick! http://www.sportslogos.net/images/lo.../full/2832.gif
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06-03-2009, 01:54 AM
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And lead us not into temptation... But Cthulhu commands me.
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06-03-2009, 02:04 AM
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Hype! all Hype. . . . .
Ok, I sent my impressions in. . . . . and I didn't even touch or hear them like some of you guys. . . . man am I trusting. . . now for the color. .
and art work . . . . and . . .
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JH13's > Why stay home when you can go to the concert?
Listening with: JH13 Pro, Grado HF2 #469
Digital conversion: the all new MB-1 optical dual Wolfson portable dac
Amps I am currently listening with: RSA P-51 Mustang, SR 71A, iBasso D10, Lisa III, OEM BLack Gate, Non Black Gate, iBasso P3+, iBasso T3 (new version), RSA Shadow, iBasso D4
Favorite monitors: JH13 Pro, Grado HF2, Ultrasone Ed. 9 #1010, ATH-ESW10JPN
Portable monitor ratings: 1. JH 13 Pro 2. ESW10 JPN 3. PortaPros, KSC35 (modified-a great value) *4. UM2
Source: iRiver H130,140, D303 optical out, D-EJ955, D-EJ1000, D-EJ2000, 25s, 25, D-303, D-777 and others (optical out if available)
Digital Conversion: MB-1 optical Dac, Altoid tin Monica Dac I, Altoid tin Monica II Asynchronous Reclocking Dac, iBasso D10
Headphone Amplifiers:RSA: Shadow, Predator, P-51 Mustang, SR71A, Xin: IV Micro, IV Mini, Reference, SM3B, SuperMacro V LE, SM3 V6 (IV all switches), XRTA X-1, C&C Box, iBasso: P1, P2, P3, P3+, T1, T2, T3, T4 D1, D2, D3, D4, D10 Woo 3 Modified-Siemens 6922 driver, 7236 power tube, Woo 6 with the original Pseudo dual PS -
Ear Monitors: JH13 Pro, Ultra Ed. 9, Grado HF-2/F1 #469, HD650, ATH-ESW10 JPN, Ultrasone 750, HFI780, PortaPro modified, KSC35, Equation RP-21, Westone UM2
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