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| Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors Discussion of portable headphones, earphones and in-ear monitors (IEMs). |
11-12-2008, 04:17 PM
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How much isolation from Denon C700?
I just got these 'phones and am not too impressed with their isolation. Im not sure whether its just me not getting a good seal, or if they dont give enough isolation for my needs. When I have the standard foam tips in, I can still hear noise when I rub my fingers together outside my ear, which is the test I used to do to check that my E4Cs were sealed correctly.
Would using the Comply foam tips make a big difference to the isolation?
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11-12-2008, 05:28 PM
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I just did the isolation test you mentioned and I can also hear my fingers rubbing. This is using the stock black rubber? tips, mine didn't come with foam ones. I can't compare with other IEM's though as these are my first and only pair.
When I was reading reviews before buying mine, I think lots of people said that they weren't true "in your ear canal" earphones, so the isolation would be less than the Shures...etc.
Im not sure about aftermarket tips though, I gotta try some of them out myself.
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11-12-2008, 06:08 PM
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For sure the comply foam tips would provide better isolation.
Better fit, and more comfortable IMO.
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11-13-2008, 10:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gberg
For sure the comply foam tips would provide better isolation.
Better fit, and more comfortable IMO.
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+1
I think I tried the stock tips for about 5 minutes before I tossed them in a drawer in favor of the Comply's.
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11-14-2008, 01:23 AM
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Quick question...
I'm perfectly fine with the isolation of my Sony MDR EX71's with stock silicone tips. How do the C700s compare with silicone tips (either biflange or single)?
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11-14-2008, 01:24 AM
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I think I need to try some of those complys 
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11-14-2008, 06:20 AM
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Location: Rocky Mountains, CO
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I am guessing the isolation with stock tips is 15-20 db vs about 30-35 db with my Livewires customs. I could go shooting with the Livewires as protection, but not with the Denon - not by a long shot. (pun intended)
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11-15-2008, 05:38 AM
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the denons have really poor isolation, not only because of the tips, it's an open pair of IEMs..
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11-15-2008, 09:01 AM
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Get the Comply tips. They make the isolation a LOT better. I remember walking through the city with the stock tips, the sound, especially the bass, would be drowned out by all sorts of sounds. Not so with the Comply tips. I wouldn't say they are the more isolating than the er-6i, but the difference is night and day and they are close to matching my old super.fi 5 pro with rubber tips.
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11-15-2008, 09:38 AM
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Form dont stick in my ear, tried the Shure E2c, and ER6i stocks they both pop out and ruin my sound eventually.
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11-17-2008, 10:55 PM
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Do they leak sound because they are open, like if you were on a bus listening at 75% volume on an iPod, would you be p***ing people off?
They can't be nearly as bad as Grado's or other open backed cans must be, can they?
I'm considering buying a pair of Denon's soon.
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11-17-2008, 11:36 PM
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They don't really leak sound but they do let it in.
I wouldn't recommend using Comply foams to anyone unless they're made of money. I still cannot believe how ridiculously expensive they are for something that isn't reusable.
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11-17-2008, 11:38 PM
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Quote:
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I wouldn't recommend using Comply foams to anyone unless they're made of money. I still cannot believe how ridiculously expensive they are for something that isn't reusable.
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Thank you. I feel the same way. I will continue to use the stock tips on my C551s until there's a better (cheaper) alternative.
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11-17-2008, 11:43 PM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Yeah, Shure black foams are $20 for 5 pair, but they're very easily washable so 5 pair lasts a very long time. I only throw my olives away when they lose their springiness and don't seal well. They usually last me two months per pair (or more if I don't use them often).
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11-18-2008, 12:57 AM
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Headphoneus Supremus
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one downside of the comply foams is the don't last as long as the shure's but they sure as hell do a better job of keeping a great seal without causing my ears pain and discomfort when using my tf10's. Therefore, I am willing to go through more of them to have this luxury.
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