Testing out the new wire I designed... Its a very thin ribbon wire. So far very very promising. I am having the entire shipment cryo treated as we speak. These are some of the prototypes. A ultra small compact ipod/iPhone line out dock. It was like micro surgery as that ipod connector is super thin and cramped. This ipod/iPhone cable is crazy small, the ipod connector is tiny and does not poke out much at all. I am a little worried about how dainty it is. Ipod cables get beat to hell and have to be pretty robust. The cable sound very good though so I hope this little guy makes it to a final ok for production. I think the mini to mini is not going to be a problem. I have been wanting to make a ultra small, ultra flexible ribbon wire for a few years now, so I finally got around to drawing it up and having it made. My original idea was to use this for a really good IEM/earphone cable but am now finding that this wire is really good for a mini to mini and ipod cables. I want to also make a RCA cable using this stuff. I am also thinking of making a iMod version using some really small SMT film caps. So a ultra super compact LOD for a iMod and ipod/iPhone could be up next.