View Single Post
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2008, 05:04 PM
omega52 omega52 is offline
Head-Fi'er
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 70
Default

I have been struggling with this Zune 80 AC charging issue all morning. I decided last night that the Zune must be looking for the new USB standard configuration for AC - USB chargers, but this morning I shorted & floated the data lines on a USB extension cable & it didn't work. My charger is a Belkin & supplies 550ma. That should be plenty as it meets the USB standard for computer devices. I'm baffled. I even suspected that Msft. had set it up so the Zune charger scheme was proprietary & not the USB standard. I don't know why I think such a thing about Msft! I will try the one listed above from Walmart &, if it works, I will try to see how it differs from my other one. Thanks for the info. BTW here's the info about USB changes: Sourced from EDN website.
"Both the new Chinese and USB-IF standards provide guidelines for detecting the power-source type by reading the impedance between D+ and D–. More specifically, a compliant wall charger internally short-circuits D+ and D– and leaves the shorted node floating. Therefore, D+ and D– short together but do not connect to any part of the charger. The new Chinese standard doesn’t specify short-circuit-detection mechanisms, whereas the USB-IF battery-charging specification 1.0 sets forth two alternative methods.

The USB protocol uses the D+ and D– signal lines to form a differential pair. D+ and D– carry binary data from an upstream port to downstream devices or from downstream devices to an upstream port. The USB 2.0 specification requires that 15-kΩ±5% resistors that connect to ground should terminate the D+ and D– lines at host or hub ports. A simple circuit detects whether the upstream port is a charger that the new standards specify (Figure 3). If the upstream port is a wall charger, D+ and D– should short together, and the shorted node should float."
Reply With Quote