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Old 02-10-2008, 06:12 PM   #169 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by nikongod View Post
i did not know that. repairs are a different story.

yes, i have looked at the R10 cable.
i dont agree with comments made towards cheap copper wire (see below for gauge..) 6n copper is not cheap.
i dont agree with emphasis on differences in conductor impedance mismatch which could easily fall within the margin of error of a meter.
i dont agree with gauge emphasis! how thick of a wire you you realllly need to get all of 300mW through 20ft of cable? you could argue that the absolute max rated power is 1W, but then i could counter it with 300 being more than most people use. still, for ****s and giggles, what wire gauge is required to get 1W across 20ft of wire?

i consider a cable with micro-phonics bad.
a cable made with inpure metal in the wires.
and at the end of the day, Im mostly curious why to risk altering the sound signature of a headphone known for its sound with a totally different cable. i do like your cables, but why not use something closer to stock on a restoration project?

your sensationalism makes this sound like a ksc75 with enamel wire wrapped around a polyester core.

the reality of things is that with the large numbers of people who have had the R10 stock there have been very few re-cables because people like how it sounds regardless of how its made.

I did not know that with the zipties.
Im not sure thats any worse than strain relief done with a knot. LOL.
The wire was oxidized so that already says something about the insulation used. The ground is not an actual insulated conductor. It is a shield on each side so there is more wire if you were to measure it as a gauge which is why in fact it was a lower resistance. This has nothing to do with my meter. I used a fluke 189 meter which is way more than enough for testing something like this. It more has to do with the poor design and construction than the gauge of the wire, but if you want to take that into account the stock HD650 cable has a lower resistance on the left and right channel and has matching resistance on the ground.

You don't like microphonics? Neither do I which is why Super Nylon sleeving is offered and was given as an option to the owner. He went with the standard black techflex sleeving and even then there is little to no microphonics for the R10 because of how I installed it onto the headphones.

I honestly suggest you open up your headphones and have a look yourself at the R10 cable before you start assuming this is some sort of all mighty cable. This cable uses worse conductors than very many other headphones at a much lower price point.

At the Y split they use zip ties and on the inside of the headphones they just knot the cable.

Sony obviously put more thought into the name of the headphone than into such a sad excuse of a cable.

Until you actually open up your headphones and look inside you have no reason to further this conversation as the only thing you will be able to tell me is what is written in the manual which I do not care much about.

I have worked with Sony before and I have a very good understanding of how they work and function.

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