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Without actual A/B all discussions are baseless.
Someone has to have both (or had UE11 Pro) and compare the two for actual information.
One thing's for certain, I expect BETTER workmanship than what UE (under logitech) has shown(not terrible, but not what it used to be).
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I am teetering between the ES3X and these. I have the impressions done and ready. What to do, what to do.
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UE10/11 has different style than ES3X.
By some stretch of imagination I'd say JD13Pro is a better version of UE11Pro, but still different from ES3X.
And ES3X by many accounts are "natural" "extremely comfortable"
Make you pick
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Shouldn't an
appreciation thread be started by someone who actually
has the JH|13 PRO? I expected feedback, maybe a review, and what I find is a few speculative bits that could as well have been posted in the
Jerry Harvey is back! thread. If at all.
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mmm
change the name to "JH-13 Pro expectation thread" ?
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All I know is that the JH13 appreciated $1k out of my wallet yesterday. Seriously, I have never been this blown away before (and that's saying something). Now, I just can't wait for the next 2 weeks or so to go by, so that the real appreciation can begin. If you didn't read my impressions in the CanJam thread, sufficie to say that the "universal" fit trial version of the JH13 sounded so spectacular that I preferred it to the HD800, and am wondering if I will ever want full-sized high-end cans again one I receive it.
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I read the specs as “dual low, dual mid, dual high,” and yes I did notice the “proprietary” notice, but marketing aside who else makes these mini armatures? Does anyone know if these are the Knowles
TWFK Series, which are the world's smallest dual balanced armatures? And doesn't UE get their armatures from Knowles as well?
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All I know is that the JH13 appreciated $1k out of my wallet yesterday. Seriously, I have never been this blown away before (and that's saying something). Now, I just can't wait for the next 2 weeks or so to go by, so that the real appreciation can begin. If you didn't read my impressions in the CanJam thread, sufficie to say that the "universal" fit trial version of the JH13 sounded so spectacular that I preferred it to the HD800, and am wondering if I will ever want full-sized high-end cans again one I receive it.
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totally agree with you...and thanks for turning me on to the JH-13 Pros...
To me these were THE highlight of the show. The best sound at the show for me. I am trying to see how I can swing for a pair. I would buy this over the HD800 too in a heartbeat. I an only imagine how good the custom ones would be.
For those asking for reviews from folks who have had the UE10 and UE11, i guess we will have to wait for boomana and the like to put in their 2 cents.
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I read the specs as “dual low, dual mid, dual high,” and yes I did notice the “proprietary” notice, but marketing aside who else makes these mini armatures? Does anyone know if these are the Knowles TWFK Series, which are the world's smallest dual balanced armatures? And doesn't UE get their armatures from Knowles as well? |
UE has most of their balanced armature receivers custom made, probably by Knowles. For examples, the dual bass drive in TF10 has this marking on them: 'UEXXXe', while the high freq. drive is marked 'UEHIe'. For SF5pro, they are 'UELOWe and 'UEHIe'. UE10 Pro has Knowles 2955 as low and UEHIe as high. In contrast, Shure's IEM uses pretty much all the common Knowles models that you can find on Knowles website.
That said, you can custom order BA transducer from Knowles that are specially tuned for your spec, if you are willing to pay a premier price. With their relationship going back to pre-Logitech's UE time, I am sure Jerry will have no problem partnering with Knowles for a series of JH exclusive transducers.
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Oh boy 
So I guess that they are very good with prog-metal music ?? |
And orchestral music, and piano music, and electronic music, and well...you get the point.
The biggest obstacle to sound quality will without a doubt be...the recording itself.
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