Yuin G1 Review

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****27-11-'08 Disclaimer: this is the review of a early released pair of G1. I am not aware of the existence of different batches, still today I exchanged PM's with another member who finds his G1 to have overpowering bass. As things stand now, I have no idea of the reason for this difference, and the sound he reported is not what's played by my pair of G1. I don't doubt of his words either, so, to know the sound of the currently made G1, we might have to double check with the retailer.
Positioning issue? Who knows!***




Yuin G1

The Yuin G1 are clip-on portable headphones, with high impedance (150 Ohm) and thought to be used with a portable amplifier. For this review I have used an iRiver E10 as source, 320kbs mp3, a Fiio E3 as portable amp. I have also tried a Logitech headphone amplifier , more powerful, without noticing significant quite differences in sound quality.
The retailer suggests 40-50 hours of burn-in. At this moment they have more than 26 hours of burn in, but I haven’t noticed any major differences after the first hours of listening.
They are priced at 149$ at Head-Direct.com.








Build quality and comfort

The G1 are Clip-on’s of the same size of Koss KSC75. I gave the KSC drivers away, so I can’t do a direct comparison between the two frames, ut the G1 might be even lighter, even if they use anodized aluminium in their construction.
I have kept KSC75’s clips, and I find those of the G1 identical in shape and size (but with different color). The way the clips insert into the drivers looks identical too, but I don’t want to put the clips off the G1 unless it’s strictly necessary.
The G1 are very comfortable. While, at the time when I had the KSC75, I had to learn to bend the clips to adapt them to my ears, this time the clip ons stay in place without having to change anything.
Both clips and pads are comfortable, and with some use it’s posbbile to wear the G1 for very long time, without them hurting at all.
A funny collateral effect in wearing them during winter is that they keep the ears warm.
The build quality looks solid and sturdy the cable is flexible, it doesn’t pull down and doesn’t get in the way while moving.
Not being IEM’s, the G1 don’t isolate. Though, since they cover the ears, they overcome the external noise better than standard earphones. This is advantage also for the KSC series, and is useful in environments where people speak, or while taking a walk. The isolation is not enough for bus or underground.

Sound

The G1 have a sound tuned towards treble, similar to Etymotic ER4P, which makes them very fast and detailed, but tonally bright. They benefit from warm amps. The bass is clean and fast, but not as deep as that of the Etys (deepest bass in a IEM when using Etymotic black foam tips). The G1 have clear vocals, very similar to the Yuin OK2, but they lack some warmth in the lower mids. The G1 are faster than the PK1 and have a more spectacular presentation, but they don’t retain the same “mature Grado sound” I liked in the PK1, and are more analitical.
Soundstage is wide (easily detectable at the first insertion, after having been used to ortho SFI headphones). Instrument separation and placement are very precise and fill all the headspace. Some nuances are colored toward the upper frequencies, sounding tinny. There isn’t the problem of “fake details” that affects the stock ER4P (which bring out very low sounds that aren't meant to stand out, changing the character of many songs). The G1 boost the upper mids and lower treble (a 3dB plateau), with a peak centered at 6 kHz, which can make them sharp with poor recordings, but not continuously sharp like the ER4P. The occasional sibilant sounds are prickly but fast, and don’t grate like I felt with other headphones. The G1 sound very good with trance, electronic music and albums with a very good production. I don’t suggest them for old rock and poorer recordings, though some people might find them “exciting” due to the treble energy, and emotional in certain cases.
Using a food comparison, if the PK1 are like chocolate, the G1 are like vanilla.
The G1 are much better than the muddy KSC75, but that’s expectable since they aim to different price ranges. I would use the G1 for not-so-noisy environments (home, work, walks in low traffic areas). The KSC75 are useful for running or gym, as headphones to throw around.

Price range

In the same price range there are, as said, Etymotic ER4P, with more pronounced highs, deeper bass and less bass volume. The G1 are more comfortable, the ER4P have the advantage to be isolating. Unlike the ER4P, and all other IEMs, the Yuin G1 are easy and quick to put on and put off when needed.
Another alternative is the Yuin OK2, with a similar price and a somewhat similar sound to the G1, a bit more neutral, but with smaller soundstage compared to the clip ons, and less protection against external noises on the road.
The Super-.fi 5 Pro have a different sound, with more bass than the G1, less analytical presentation, but recessed mids and a worse sibilance problem. The Super.fi 5 Pro have a very uncomfortable cable which gets in whe way when moving.
The PK1 would be my earphone of choice, with a sound both full and exciting, quite clear, and with a large soundstage for an earbud. Being them open earbuds, they get more easily covered by external noise. I consider the PK1 as the earphone having the best sound quality/price ratio in the portable market. The G1 are an alternative for who likes clip-ons, comfort, more isolation for an open headphone and a nice look (where the PK1 look like cheap earbuds). The G1 have wider soundstage.
Other hedphones to consider are the iGrados, costing 50$. They are similar to the Grado SR-60 and cover the ear. They sound full and fun, but muffled at the high frequencies. They get a lot better with quarter mod (described on Head-fi) and a silver plated copper recable, which brings out the treble.
At superior price ranges there are Shure E500 (big bass, rolled off highs, artificial vocals), which I find more balanced than the G1 but at a 300+$ price tag.
I also find a good all arounder in the Triple.fi 10 Pro (300$), but these are also affected by some sibilance with certain recordings, though they might have been affected by the amp I was using at that time (Minibox E+).

Tony
"If I had to shuffle music on vinyl, it would have to be as large as Discworld"

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on ebay their price is $60 and in head-direct the sell it for $149?
tell me a reason to choose them?
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The G2's are $60 on ebay, not the G1's.

BTW, nice review Antony! I recommend burning them in as long as you can. With the G2's, I noticed a marked difference in SQ after 50 hours burn-in. They're now on 80+, and I'm planning on pitching them side-by-side against the KSC75's once they reach the 100 hour mark.

Keep us posted on the G1's!
Portable: iPod Touch > iBasso D2 Viper // Fiio E3 > Sleek SA6 (+[Viper],=[E3]/++) w/olives or T100's // Yuin G2
Home: Laptop > Logitech Z10 speakers (lol)
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Yup, I'll keep burning them in, and will report further improvements. I am not a believer of long time burn in, but trying doesn't hurt.
"If I had to shuffle music on vinyl, it would have to be as large as Discworld"

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Nice review !!

Thanks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by antonyfirst View Post
I am not a believer of long time burn in, but trying doesn't hurt.
I wasn't either, but the G2's straight out of the box were unlistenable. Even just a couple of hours of letting that diaphragm flap around a bit helped a great deal. Whether or not there are appreciable differences at hundreds of hours I'm still skeptical about, but they sound like different phones now compared to the first time I put them on.
Portable: iPod Touch > iBasso D2 Viper // Fiio E3 > Sleek SA6 (+[Viper],=[E3]/++) w/olives or T100's // Yuin G2
Home: Laptop > Logitech Z10 speakers (lol)
On "the list": Denon D2000/D5000, Fiio E5, Westone3, Predator

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I found the G1 dark out the box, then the treble came out after 30-60 minutes. That was the major change. Then the sound signature adjusted a bit, but nothing extreme. Thus I said I don't believe in long time burn in.
"If I had to shuffle music on vinyl, it would have to be as large as Discworld"

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How do they sound unamped compaired to the other yuin lineup?
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#9
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They would hardly reach a loud volume with an unamped mp3 player. Also, while the Fiio is good with them, a more powerful amp would give their 150 Ohm more power, bettering the sound.
"If I had to shuffle music on vinyl, it would have to be as large as Discworld"

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Nice review, good to see you're still keeping busy

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You say a fiio amp is good with the G1's mmm. I own a cowon D2 also a fiio. Now what would you think would be a better buy sound quality wise and base wise out of the ok2 and the G1's with a fiio?
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I'd choose the G1 for the largest soundstage and the ability to overcome external noises better. The sound is much more enveloping than any of the Yuin earbuds when listening outside.
"If I had to shuffle music on vinyl, it would have to be as large as Discworld"

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i have a question.Head direct is a company and the aim of every company is to sell its products.G1 its a new product so head-direct want to promote it.A good review is a good option.If there was the lighest possibility to write a negative review for their new product ,u think that head direct would give u the G1?Obviously the answer is not.So i dont think your review is objective since in case of a bad review the new product would sell less meaning loss at the company's sales profit
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which might meant no free future sample units for testing?
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Past: X1061, CK100, S639F, IE8, TF10P, D2, UM2, PK2, SA6
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When was the last time you'd ever see bad review on head-fi. I can't remember that I've ever seen one.
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